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Ottawa city politicians will begin debate this week on a program to get people to stop using perfume, scented soaps, cleaners and deodorants - and possibly ban them altogether in public places.
Maybe a good investment would be clothespegs (for our noses). What will Big Brother think of next?
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Hi Mom'45, There are signs like that in the Hospital here,...that read "Share the Air" and because of all the different colognes & perfumes,.and deoderants & soaps,...they mention the possible alergies to some people ,I guess that is plausible,.and understandable in a Hospital Enviroment,......but I wonder if that is the start to all public buildings,.....it does get rather much after a while though,....... but on the same note ,.they have signs just outside the door (right outside) asking people (mostly patients) not to smoke to close to the doorway,.....I always find it funny to see People (sick people,.....some really sick),....outside having a smoke I know it is a tough habit for people to break,...but if your already sick,......might be a good time to 'try ' & quit or slow down..............hahahahahah sitting outside even in the Winter some attachded to IV' and dragging the pole on wheels around with them...............Just seems odd............. .............but to each their own I suppose: HF&RV
At the gym I have been gassed on occasion by little Miss Perfects in
their petite designer outfits, in full make up mind you, and doused
with perfume. Probably a really good perfume, but hey, when your
trying to catch your breath and you happen to inhale the miasma
emanating off these lovelies it's all bad. Cough!!
I enjoy the wiggly stuff in the gym as any other guy would, but divas
please, you're there to sweat dear.
Also one or two guys loved to poor on the cologne in the locker room
after their shower -- also deadly.
I never mention anything b/c it seldom happens, and It's usually
newcomers. They learn soon enough.
Second Avenue.
I agree with both you of you...and I also have put up with obnoxious smells of perfume, cologne and stale smoke, but I was wondering more if eventually the people like the plumber, tv repair man (?), carpet installer, etc. will play a role in the government eventually banning "smells" like soap, deodorant, etc. from use inside your home as these tradespeople have to enter your house to work, and goodness knows, they may have an objection or allergy to your "smells". In public, I agree with trying the ban, but I wonder just how far this scenario can go before the peasants revolt?
My husband has allergies, one being cigarette smoke, or more likey a chemical in the smoke. I can't wear perfume , cologne or hair spary, he just gets filled up and can't stop wheezing and sneeszing if I do. I use as many unscented products as possible, such as deodorant, laundry detergent etc. I think people have to use moderation. We have a wood stove which we hardly use because of his allergies and in the winter when the neighbours around us have a wood fire going he has an attack if he's ouside and it usually depends on wheher there is a low ceiling...not sure if that's the right terminology...so I can sympathize with people who have severe allergies. People should use a little commom sense and moderation perhaps it wouldn't be so bad for the sufferers.....Dianne
Quebec has made it illegal to smoke in any public building including bars restaurants etc. Today was the first day. The restaurants were empty, but not from loss of trade. Smokers were eating and leaving right away. Interesting. Smoking is still allowed in private homes and probably the red light district. Like the 90 year old man said when they asked him, "Do you smoke after sex?" He said, "Depends how fast I go"
Maybe it is actually better for Restauranteers as their clients leave and there is a table for the next hungry customer sooner. No more sitting around smoking and having that second (free?) cup of coffee.
It has been against the law here in BC to smoke in most Public Buildings for quite sometime,.....as for Public buildings they too have come around as well,...... I Remember visiting Montreal several years ago ,.and I went up to the big shopping centre on Newman Blvd (Caravelle something???),......and I was going to put some film in to be developed ,..and when I walked in I was very surprised at People actually smoking in a shopping center,....not because I'm against smoking ,...but because I hadn't seen that for quite awhile here in Victoria,......it amazed me that smoking was still allowed in a mall like that,........So I guess I'm saying that ,everyone (including smokers,and those who feel civil liberties are at stake) will get used to places being non-smoking,.......Things do Pass(and we get over & then used to the idea),......and if Governments are willing to pass laws on nonsmoking ,....Then the Question begs to be asked ,.....Just how bad is smoking for me.......I would guess it must be really bad if 'foregoing the tax intake' is deemed better than allowing the old status quo: (Just an opinion).................and I would guess that most smokers ,readily go outside ,when visiting the homes of friends,........So I guess ( as Bob Dylan said ) "The Times they are a Changing" ..............................................................................havefunand rememberVerdun
Hi Mom Linda 194 something.....sorry to intrude in your post but your's was the top of the list when I got onto Verduns Connection..... My question to all is....why have the e-mails stopped? I used to be kept in the loop when I would receive all posting via e-mail! Can any one answer why I have been chopped off? Thanks Chris
I must respond to this post....as I am party to the "no using colgne, perfume lifestyle at work. We have been told....and I am in Human Resourses..(my first day working there I was told I could no longer use the scented soap I was using!)..that no one can use any extra stuff while working, ie perfume, colgne etc...nothing sented! We cannot use a cleaner with areosol....we have to use a spray bottle with contents that will not disturb any allergies! So we are a "non" smelling company due to the above problems....And we have had this in effect for several years....prior to this world wide band! Chris
Sorry Mom 1945, but I think you are taking this extreme to well "overboard" These people that go into peoples houses have to take the good with the bad...that is what they are paid for....doing a job! Don't start saying because I use "dial" and the trades person is allerget to it...to stop him completing his job....sometimes it is a risk....not like a stationary office.....very different! A stationary office can whine and yell about things, but the trades people....well then they would be without work wouldn't they(they do not have the power to stop what happenes in homes that they encounter!) if they couldnl"t work because of whatever? Quite frankly they do not have a choice in the matter, and if they do....well they lose the job! In my eyes, if you want to be a freewheeler, then you have to pay the consequences....or loose the job...cause you can't handle the "soap"
chris
Hello Chris (chickentaco) love that name Btw,..........hahahaha I would say somethings 'fishy ' in Denmark,......but were not in Denmark, so I guess nothings seems a 'foul' here(or is that fowl)...............hahahahaha Glad to here that none of you or your pals at work 'stink' ..............hahahahaha Just of note ,..if you ever come over here for a visit,..feel free to use soap ,scented or otherwise,...........hahahahhaha We are still an unbiased (towards scents) especially Common Sense........and your always welcome ,Especially if your Filthy & Rich ( we can deal with the Stinking)....................hahahahha HF&RV
Just an observation ,but if a plumber prefers the smells of his job to say "Canal #5 ,lock #6)...........then I think he's to into his job.........hahahahahaha .........but if he loves his job,.......then you have to go along with that old song "Love Stinks".......................hahahahah Have Fun & Remember Verdun
HI Les, just read your post....and well I am impressed with you being a (non smoker) that you would .....almost defend the smokers.....me being a smoker, and having to conform to the BC laws of where I can and cannot smoke....and trust me on this I have had many of arguements on top of Grouse Grind......after I have completed this journey in record time to the idiot who is cursing me for smoking! Sorry, maybe only Les will know about this climb, or maybe heard about it....never the less, I have completed this climb several times in a week, yet I still get conflict from some people....I must admit, not all, but there are the few who think they rule the earth! I have had numourous arguments with theses well wishers! But my arguement, with these protesters is always....what was your time? My time....has been always way better then theirs....and this has closed their chops! Dumb asses! They have never had anything to argue, once they have heard my time is better then theirs! So you non smokers...how do I handle this? Chris
Hey Maggie, I think you are NOT correct in saying that the resauranter would be better off if the smoker just left the building.....or basicallyt that was your intent....I think you are very wrong in saying this....stats say that a smoker will stay there longer and order more then the non smoker will! think about it! But with now....like here in BC....the average person leaves the eatery faster...but with no better tip for the server....then a non smoker.....think about it for the server....and ask them....would they rather service the smoking pit then the non smoking pit? do they get better tips? Ask them! Chris
Okay..I'll bite...how is your time better?
It matters not whether you're a smoker or non-smoker. The law says......ye shalt not smoke in public places. - Same as speeders, doesn't matter if all other cars on the road are speeding, if you get caught you'll get a ticket, because the law says....ye shalt not speed. - Same as not wearing a seat belt, if you get caught not wearing one, you shall get a ticket, because the law says....ye shalt wear a seat belt. Chacun a son gout, but just don't do it if its agin the law! Now, if we don't like the laws we can protest to try and get them changed, but good luck trying. By the way, am I a smoker, or not?
Chris...why do you sound so angry...Di
Hey Les, glad you like my "name".....I find it curious to say the least! As for the crap that is going around about scents....well....I can understand it in a cramped office, but as for individual homes....take a pill! People who visit homes on a regular basis must get used to things....as there is no protocol as to how a family has to show it's self....and that must never change! We would lose our freedom if that were the case! Stop the e-mails about how things should be in private homes! That is truly not fair! At the workplace....certainly a different story..... Anyone still having a problem with this issue should contact me directly! Not this website! Dumbass! Chris
I guess i am a DUMBASS and proud of it!!!! Anyhow....lets calm down here, an observation was made several posts back and NO ONE is saying that we can't do as we please in our own homes....there is nothing wrong in smoking in your own home, even if you have children or infants after all second hand smoke wont hurt them....and in bars restaurants and other public places people should be allowed to smoke, after all it's their democratic right to smoke, pollute the air other people breathe and as i said second smoke wont hurt anyone...hmmmm......remember Heather Crowe who died recently from cancer caused by working for years in a bar or restaurnat where there was smoking,....I guess we can say oh what a pity...too bad for her and her family......Dianne
Guess we should "BUTT OUT ON THIS ONE"...pun intended. The subject seems to be getting a little out of hand, with people getting hot under the collar.
By the way, I am a non-smoker. Cheers.
Perhaps these should be standard issue for everybody...lol...Dianne
Hi Dy, sorry I don't mean to sound angry....but it does anger me with these NO SMOKING laws.....I have had to indure them here in BC for several years, now it is happening in Ontario and Quebec as of midnight last night? I guess in all honesty my anger comes from the "non smokers" who put me down as a non active part in active life......where I am an active part in this active societiey! I do understand you possibly do not live here in BC, so I will have to rely on Les to confirm things.....but my anger comes from me finishing the Grouse Grind in 43 minutes, and have a smoke up top waiting for my friends......my anger comes from the idiot that has climbed the grind behind me and says to me, "why are you smoking" yes not a normal occurrance, but I have been attacked by a "SUCH PERSON"....why am I angry? Why does the guy behind me on the grind choose to put me down cause I am smoking? tell me that first, then I will tell you why I am angry! And just so you know, I am not angry, I am more frustrated then angry! Chris
hhahahaha Chickentaco ,......your bitting better than a Tyee on a Feed,..........I would suppose from your arguement that if Neil Armstrong was a smoker ,you would use the See I Walked on the Moon,.........and got their in less than a week,.............What;s your best time............hahahahaha I will admit I could not care less if someone smokes or not ,and I do support smokers somewhat,(only because I think it's No one elses business,...........unless it is harmfull to others,....) but Even you would surely not dispute the Harmful effects from smoking (would you?),........I liken it to riding in a car and thinking "Hey lets fill this car completely full of smoke"..........Ya doesn't make sense to me either,......so why do it to your body?? (but I do believe this is still your choice),..........and if your running ,climbing or walking the Grouse Grind or any other gruelling type of exertion,......then I would say congrats on the climb ( the same as I would say to a Crystal Meth climber,.....afterall they still did the climb).............hahahahahah No one is after anyone individual,.......just making an observation ,most of them based on personal preferance,......(which they have a right to as well) but come on over and let's do a Verdun Tri-Athalon............that's Pizza (or chicken tacos,....I'm better at Enchiladas,......then a Case of Beer each (wine for the wimps,.or both for the adventurous),.........and then We Smoke our faces off.(Ok ,you win that one ,.....but I bet in my day I could Smoke way more than you )...........hahahahahahah but Congrats on the grouse grind,....that is not an easy task ,............It will make a great story one day ,when sitting beside the other wheelchairs outside the hospital................hahahahah Chris just having fun,..........and did I mention Mexican Dining is a favourite of mine,........I love a Good Taco,................and will climb the highest Mountain to munch one...........................Have Fun & Remember Verdun
In all honesty Happy.....it is the individuals honour as to weather they want to smoke or not. I must say my mother smoked through 3 preganies and we are all very healthy! It had no bearing on us whats so ever.....and I have expeienced several people since my adulthood that are smookers....through having babies that there was no harm!!! So sorry you silly bastered You don't have a hope in hell with all of us! Chris
Chris I live in Nova Scotia where there's been a non smoking policy in effect for several years. Some bars etc have had separate areas made for the smokers, which will be removed soon, not sure exactly. I have a bit of a weird sense of humour...so please don't take offense.... Anyhow, bravo to you if you could complete the run before the non smokers...so what if they are.... whats the word....dismayed that you are smoking....I wish you wouldn't for your own sake, but it is your choice. However having said that, I as a non smoker do not wish to inhale it, have my clothes smell of it, my hair reek of it and I feel that I have as much a right as you smokers do to enjoy a meal in a restaurant or go to a bar for a drink. So what are we to do? How do we resolve this issue? I would like to be able to discuss this with out the name calling and put downs, how does that help to resolve any issue for that matter...Dianne
Maybe things are different here in saskatchewan than there in BC. The first cup of coffee costs $1. and refills are free. Therefore no one makes anything from people sitting after a meal and having their coffee and a smoke. Sorry, I don't intend to preech. I know how much it got my "ire" up when I was a smoker. This is a "hot" topic. Please remember when replying to posts that we should not make any personal attacks. If you feel very strongly about something, it may be wisest to keep it out of Verdun Connections. (Chris this is not directed at you, I just happened to use your message to enter this into the right message subject.)
Reminds me of the Coedian who asked his Mother ,if she smoked when she was pregnant with him,........She answered : "Only when I was Drinking".............hahahahhahaha Have Fun & Remember Verdun
Well, I certainly did not intend on upsetting anyone with my comments, and I usually refraine from using offensive language...I do not do name-calling....are my graphics excluded?.....so here is a peace offering we don't live in a perfect world.....so lets chill, life's too short...Di
Yes Les I would use Neil Armstrong....but truly I would only use what I know, and that is what I have submitted....yes I know the odds are against everything that I have said....and truly I am not convinced on whether smoking is good or smoking is bad, I can only go on my experiences.....and NO I am not promoting smoking to anyone! I just happen to be a smoker who has experienced the "unheard of" from non smokers...and I will still challenge them today....so....has anyone out there....non smokers who are close to this talk say they have run a half marathon? I would like to know......as I have....if you have, please do tell me your time! my half marathon time was 1:45 what was yours?And I am talking about your first attempt at this distance! Not your best time! Chris
I would guess that over 'time' things should get better,.....so why not know a persons best time regardless of wheter it's 1st or 27th,..... I often see interviews with older marathon participants,.......and it's quite enlightning ,not to mention spirit lifting as well,.......this should not undermine their achievment (smoker or not), Life would be pretty boring if we all liked & did the same things: So read nothing into any post ,.and just have Fun..........but don't stop running ,....as a matter of fact I would encourage you to run for your life.................. inhale ,...exhale .....inhale .......exhale............count to ten (thousand),..........and now stand in the middle of the room and put your hands on your hips ,.....lean your head way back,................and stare at the center of the ceiling ............and now SMILE, ................I think you will find that ,it is impossible to be angry while trying this exercise................hahahahahah (can be done at the top of a mountain too) 1.............2................3.....................head back ................Smile hahahahaha Have Fun & Remember Verdun
Hi Happy, great to touch base with you way back in the Maritimes.....This is certainly getting out of hand with folks who are reading our posts....but please folks know we are just bantering back and forth. I feel that here on the Wet Coast....I do confess that I do get angry when this subject arrisses...and to be honest I do have to defend every thing! As I have in the previous posts....but havinng said that....it is not fair to say that everyone can do the things I have or willl do, but I do take offence that the mind set is that smokers cannot do things....I feel in my last post and I can post severval more that smokers can do the things you non smokers think they can't! Ask me I'll show you pics of what I have done! Chris without oxegen masks!
Happy .....no need to send the flowers....we are alll what we are...right? This forum has no hostile formum....I hope as I had no intentions to send any hostile forums to any one, especially you! so please known I understand where you are coming from, as long as you understand where I am coming from> Verdun friends! Chris
Les, you have no idea...LOL....I smile from ear to ear every day! No matter what....Nothing stands in my way of a smile to a co-worker or anyway.l..... but getting back to the running aspect of things.....yes I am proud of my accomplishments, whether I am a smoker or not, but please know I am not proud that I am a smoker....and I would certainly not promote it! just so u all know! Chris
Hey Maggie, this is Chris, and no I don't take any oiffence to what is going on....possibly cause I have created it!!!!!!!!!!!!! As for how it is in Sask to here in BC....same stuff!... Basically it's no different then there in Sask.....well the only diff is you have more stalks of hay then us amd we might have more Tim Hortons then you? take care chris
I am a smoker, have been most of my life. I believe I have the right to make that choice for myself and nobody should feel they have the right to take that choice from me. At the same time I never smoke in my house, I smoke in the garage during inclement weather. I live with non smokers and I believe I don’t have the right to expose them to something that is hazardous to their health. And being honest, it's a dirty habit, with odours, ashes, and butts. There's nothing more disgusting than areas outside buildings where smokers gather to smoke and see the pile of butts left over time. I myself would think nothing of being forward with someone who lit up at the table while I was eating. What the purpose of the smoking laws is to protect non smokers from the hazards of cigarette smoke. And even though I am a smoker I am very much in support of these laws.
Hey HappyDi that's a nice bouquet of roses, if chickentaco doesn't want them, i'll take em.
Dianne. I am a former smoker. Quit three times that I can remember. 1st time,one year, 2nd time, 2/2 years, this time 1 1/2 years. This time I quit for good. So now I have quit drinking, quit smoking. Like my Dr. said; "You need to quit with the wine, women, and song". Well I am not giving up singing, and I am sure as H*** not giving up women. AND I am chillin'. God loves all of his CHILLEN (children). Anyways grab your partner and DOSEY(?) DOE(?). You can read into that anything you want. OH OH, There goes those darn church bells again.Talk to you later!!!!!! Winston
Oh, now them are fightin words! Mentioning Tim Hortons to someone that does not have access is just plain CRUEL!
Hello MaggieMck,........We have TimHortons right here in the Hospital,....and to be honest I cannot Remember the last time I was even in one (other than yesterday),....I picked up Shawn (Teresa's son,....my step son) from the airport,.and took him to visit Teresa's Mom ,.in the hospital,...and for some reason (I do have one) I stopped at the little store on te main floor of the hospital,.and bought a couple of coffee's to take up to the room ,...I also bought a Maple (I think they called it a Canandian Maple doughnut,.....) I had said to Teresa a week or so ago that one day I was going to have one of those,.and that they reminded me of the cafeteria at VCH,....where they you to sell these donuts along with there other fabulous lunches.......hahahahaha ,and I don't thnk I have had one since those days,..(circa '68)............hahahahahah the only thing I didn't have to complete the ambience was of course a smoke............hahahahahha hmmmmm maybe today I'll visit someone on the Lung Cancer Floor,.........but I'll take the stairs as usual,.....and tell them how fast I made the climb.........................hahahahahhaah Head back,........1....2.......3.....stare at ceiling ........now SMILE,......................yea that's it ..........................HF&RV Smoke,Smoke ,Smoke ,that cigarette,..........Puff ,Puff ,Puff yourself to Death (I always got a laugh outta of that song,................ ...............Have Fun (and don't take things to serious,.....were all trying to be friends here),,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,& Remember Verdun it looks stupid when we do it too !!!!!!!! hahahahahhaahahah ...................................See there's Pro's & Cons to everything..........hahahahaha Have Fun Chris ,were just kidding .....(couldn't care less if someone smokes or not,...it's who you are that matters most),..........I'm sure your cool ,.........most of the time: HF&RV
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Chris I know where you are coming from, and I'm glad you know where I'm coming from......so on a hot topic like this we are on opposite sides of the fence I watched helplessly as my mother died from throat cancer and she smoked for 60 years...not a pretty sight....She was 75. Only 15 years older than I am now and believe me in 15 years time I do not want to leave this earth as I have way too much to do. She told me she had some regrets and one was not seeing her grandchildren marry and make her a great grandmother......I accompanied my mother for 6 weeks as she went to the Montreal General for radiation treatments in 1996 and that was so difficult...you have no idea...seeing all those people deteriorate, granted not all had cancer because they were smokers. After the surgery to remove the larynx she could no longer speak and she could not eat or drink. She refused a feeding tube directly into the stomach. This is very graphic but I feel I have to tell it....she would try to eat a liquid diet and she would swallow but the food would regurgitate from her nose....She went from about 130 down to about 60lbs in a very short time and we the family finally insisted she have a feeding tube. As I said I was with my mother most of that year, I do not live in Montral, so I travelled back and forth staying weeks at a time which caused friction here at home....then I had my daughters still at home and of course my husband and they were very supportive but at times I felt torn between the two...normal reaction... People say that what they do and how they live their lives is their business and yes I do agree with that to a point, but when someone gets seriously ill everyone suffers from the effects. I had been in the habit of calling my mom every other week to chat, have a few laughs and catch up on the news. It was very difficult for me loosing that connection with my mother....here she was still living but communication was cut off because she couldn't speak....it was as if she was already dead......but she was still living.... Well enough of this as I am getting myself sad and I want to be happy!! Don't Worry Be Happy!!!
Winston....heck no, don't give up on song and women.....and lets hope the church bells keep on ringing for a long time.....How else are we to know that we're still alive and kicking......Dianne
Les....very funny!!!!! but remember the Big Guy is still watching Dianne
Chicken taco2000. I agree if you want to smoke it is your business. But one sort of attitude you don't want to take, is the one you are taking. And that is that you smoke and you are healthier, and faster, and quicker, and" nothing is going to happen to me if I smoke". I would make a recommendation that if you have a printer, that you print out all the resposes you have made about beating everyone up "THE MOUNTAIN". Take those comments that you print out, and from time to time over the next several years or so, take them out and read them. Hopefully, and I truely means this.....hopefully years down the road you won't be saying, those people on Verdun Connections were right, and that you can prove the people on VC wrong. I can see the anger in your messages, and that is fine, if you want to be angry with those people you are beating up "THE MOUNTAIN". But I think sharing your anger
here, over and over again, just does one thing. It shows you are an angry, angry person, and that is all. Winston Allison
hey, how about we give harvey,s and swiss chalet a plug too. CARA would love it. just a joke here. i gotta get in on some this sarcasm, could not resist. carolyn
Here's something to sink our teeth into Have a good day...Dianne
Di, Maybe Paul knows. We used to go for burgers after closing the building for the Y dances. I think the emporium we frequented was called Kostas. It seems to me there was another one on Verdun, corner LaSalle that I can't remember. My mind was in a fog back then. But of course that's only natural after listening to "Rubber ball. I'll come bouncing back to you." fifty times. That's why, as chaperone I patrolled the outside of the building as much as the inside. Still, they were great dances. Ed
the y dances with DJ sonny martin, wow, what fun, and pointe st. charles record hops with mike stevens from cjad. we had it all. even a beauty pageant , lois adler came in fist place, diane pigeon, 2nd. i came in third. verdun girls took all the prizes. thanks for my memory. carolyn
Hi Ed: I had a great big laugh when I read your post...gee...didn't you like that song?...Here's a reminder ........ Paul is in Moncton with his mom who is in a nursing home. She is 91 and is in failing health. Anyhow, Paul will be home tonight and I'll ask him about the burger joints you went to. I know he has talked about the Riverview Restaurant as being one place he frequented back then.....Geesh that ball is driving me crazy! BTW....those were great days back then, did we really appreciate it then? Probably not, but looking back and comparing today's youth, even with all the so-called advantages that kids have today I think we had a wonderful life.....Dianne
Hi Ed.....Besides hangin' at Kostas after the Y dances, that restaurant you may be thinking of that everyone frequented also was at the corner of Lasalle & Riverview (I think) it was a Greek Restaurant, and their pizza was very good? I might be wrong about this,memory ain't what it used to be........sorta like a bouncin'ball...or was that a "rubber ball keeps bouncin' back to me,bouncy..bouncy...etc etc cookie
Chris. We don't need any pictures of what you have done. I really don't think it is all that important to any of us. Of course if it was something extraordinary, like climbing Mount Everest, swimming the English Channel, or curing some fatal disease. Then that would be really great to know about. I am sure that many on this site could share things on here that they have accomplished. One thing I think is wonderful, is for the ladies on here who have given birth to children, and the mom and dads who have put forth an effort to raise and provide for their kids. Smokers and non-smokers can do that. Everything we do we need to put in perspective. As long as we can say we did the best we could at the end of our lifes, then what more can we ask. Just remember what the Wizard of Oz said. " A person is not messured by how much they love, but how much they are loved. And of
course our favorite Rodney King saying; "Can't we all get along". Hope we all have a good weekend. Lots of love!!!!!! Winston
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