The Early Days:
Although the actual structure that was to become Crawford Park United Church was not begun until 1947, the actual community of faith began to form much earlier. This small group of people who met in the little red schoolhouse would eventually form the nucleus of Crawford Park United Church.
In the growing community of Crawford Park, a dozen or so faithful souls felt the need to gather together on Sundays to worship in some form of the Protestant faith. Permission was secured to use the two classrooms of the little red schoolhouse then standing on the corner of Lloyd George and Churchill Avenues. The Rev. Wilkinson came out to lead these services each Sunday beginning in the early 1940's and continuing until 1944. As time went on about 34 to 45 hardy citizens braved the pioneer conditions prevailing in the schoolhouse and supplied the enthusiasm and fellowship that more than made up for any lack of comfort.
In 1942 their Sunday collections amounted to $236.58 and in 1943 had swelled to $327.25.
As the word spread that a service was held each Sunday, the congregation sometimes filled all the desk seats and available chairs and those in charge at the door would hurriedly borrow kitchen chairs from the nearest homes to seat the overflow.
Begun as a joint community Church to serve the needs of the Protestant people of Crawford Park and neighboring environs, the present building of what is now Crawford Park United Church was begun in 1947. With such funds as could be given or pledged by members, adherents and friends and with the help of the Home Mission Board of The United Church of Canada, the group meeting in the little red schoolhouse planned and prepared the basement of what was later to be completed as the splendid Church which now stands on Clemenceau Avenue. A six roomed manse was constructed as well, and in February of 1948 the congregation began to hold its meetings in the basement hall of its own building.
After Mr. Wilkinson gave up the charge in the fall of 1944,the Rev. Meech carried on. The Rev. J.K. Brown took overall responsibility for the Church and filled in when needed. During the period from 1944 to 1947 the Rev. O. Stevens, Rev. Starkey and Rev. Williams supplied leadership briefly. The Rev. Douglas Reed, the Rev. W. Morris and the Rev. R. Purvis Smith came for somewhat lengthier periods. In 1947 Rev. J.C. Downing came from Greenfield Park and continued services in the schoolhouse and then took charge of the Church congregation preaching there in the morning and traveling to St. Jerome in the afternoon to hold evening services there.
Sunday School sessions began simultaneously with the Church services and continued diligently through the years offering leadership and training in Christian living to all children in the vicinity. The first Sunday School party was held in 1942 in the schoolhouse, and these festivities became an annual event. In 1948 the party was held in the present Church basement hall.
In 1944 the Women's Auxiliary (W.A.) was organized under the leadership of Mrs. Oke and Mrs. Hepworth and the group held regular monthly meetings in the homes. Soon the membership and popularity of this organization made a larger meeting place imperative, and in 1948 the basement hall made it possible to extend the hospitality and interests of this group.
Late in 1944, the Women's Missionary Society (W.M.S.) was begun under the leadership of Mrs. Maud Hall, gradually assuming responsibility for the extension of spiritual welfare in missionary work and younger groups.
C.G.I.T., Explorer and Mission Band groups were formed to service the needs of girls from ages 6 to 16. Cubs and Boy scouts began to meet weekly in the hall.
Beginning with a piano and small group to lead the singing in the schoolhouse, the choir met faithfully and unceasingly to prepare music to enhance the atmosphere of worship as the congregation moved on from the schoolhouse to the basement hall. It was very fortunate that upon completion of the Church and the gift of an electric organ from the Men's Club, a gifted and willing organist Mr. W. Hindle arrived in the district. Under the leadership and training of Mr. Hindle the music of the services contributed much to the enjoyment of the congregation.
Early historical sketch by church member (Author unknown)
A Chronology of Significant Events :
1939 - 1944 Crawford Park began as a Home Mission Field in the fall of 1939 when Rev. J. Wilkinson arranged regular Church services and Sunday School in a two-room Protestant school building located on the corner of Churchill and Lloyd George.
1944-46 Rev. J. Wilkinson retired in the Fall of 1944, due to sickness. Rev. J.K. Brown was appointed Supervisor of Pastoral Supply in February 1945.
1944-1945 Mr. M.O. Stevens was student supply
1945-1946 Rev. W.A. Morris supplied until May 1946
1946-1947 Rev. R.Purvis Smith supplied until May 1947
February, 1945, the Board of Stewards was organized and the congregation was officially constituted in March of the same year.
1944 The W.A. was organized under the leadership of Mrs. Oke and Mrs. R. Hepworth
July, 1945 Lots on Clemenceau Street were purchased for the new church building
September, 1946 Registers of Civil Status were secured.
February 1947 Permission to erect a church hall in the form of a basement for a Church was granted by Presbytery. In July permission to erect a manse was given.
1947 A properly constituted Official Board was formed. A Board of Trustees was also formed. The church decided on a seven year plan for the construction of the church basement and super-structure. In the summer of 1947 Rev. J.C. Downing was appointed Minister of Crawford Park Church. The cornerstone of the present building was laid on November 23, 1947.
November, 1952 the completed Church was dedicated in a special service and the first Sunday Service was held on Sunday, November 9, 1952 at 11 a.m.
1957 Crawford Park United Church moved from a mission to a fully independent status.
1967 The Centennial project was the reconstruction of the church basement.
1979 The burning of the mortgage took place on November 24, 1979
1972-73 Crawford Park became a shared pastoral charge with St. Paul United
1976 Crawford Park became a shared pastoral charge with Verdun United
1987 Crawford celebrated its 40th. Anniversary
1997 Crawford celebrated its 50th. Anniversary
based on the info from this chronologial timeline,.it looks like this Church will be celebrating it's 60th this year......................???
94 comments:
Ok Here you go for Crawford Park United: .................Shhhhhh no laughing in Church, 1445 Clemenceau.............................................
Here's one called All Saints ???? (I don't think they were talking about the parishoners)............hahahahahah ,,,,,,,,,,says it's at 7325 Ouimet.........................???
Thanks for the history and photos! I lived 3 houses down from Crawford Park United. At the time, the church had a high thick cedar hedge around it.
Crawford Park United as I remember it:
That's a neat old picture ./Where'd you find that one? I must have missed one somewhere............................
I had it saved from one day when I was looking up things about Verdun. It's from here: http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/pm.php?id=record_detail&fl=0&lg=Francais&ex=00000141&rd=87825&hs=0&alt= There are lots of nice old pics there.
Ahh Ok I have the same page bookmarked,.but I usually was posting the boardwalk,.or that stuff,.....the Church's used to escape my attention.....hahaha Thanks for the memory prompt.......
Les Great pictures of the two churches. Brings back memories. This little sinner attended All Saints Anglican from childhood to my 30s. Reverend Vokey was the best. I always remember Friday Nights at the United Church. For 25 cents you could see a movie, get a hot dog and drink. Never once did the movie play to the end and we had to go home early.
Would you have any timeline information on Crawford Park School. There was the red brick school on Lloyd George and Churchill with playground facing Clemenceau. When I started there in mid-grade one and two we attended "The Cottages". which were situated on Clemenceau, kind of a white clapboard place. It looked more like a Verdun flat without the upper level. if that makes any sense. They closed those cottages soon after I went into the "main" scool and remained empty for ages. Does anyone know if the school is still used by Peter Hall, or has it been torn down. If anyone ever has some free time could they post a picture of the school with the cottages. I''d love to see it again. Laurie
Hi Shadow Mama Laura Could I ask you who you are. I lived in Crawford Park from 60-83. I might have crossed paths with you. I hung around with alot of kids on Clemenceau. Do you remember the Hulley's. Donna Stewart. ? Laurie Etienne
Vokey for you ..................................................................... Joseph Vokey Jr., a pilot in the Army during World War I, married Olive Bradshaw on June 12th, 1918 in England. He became the Rev. Joseph Vokey. In March, 1949, he was ordained to the priesthood and became the first Incumbent of the church that he would become Rector of in the year 1957. The name of the church was All Saints Church, Crawford Park, Montreal. He retired on November 16th, 1968. Joseph and Olive were the parents of 4 children, Joyce Vokey born 1920, Amy Vokey who was born in 1921 and is the mother of 4 children, Arnold Vokey who was born in 1923 and died at the age of 10 years on February 5th, 1933 and is buried in Mount Royal Cemetery with his grandmother, and Roy Vokey. ..........Here also for those with an interest in Rev Vokey,.is a story of the History of their family: http://www.rvokey.ca/Vokey/History.html ...............................................................
There's a couple of Crawford PArk 'Grads' ? listed on the following site
All Grads
= New Member = Recently Updated = Married = Has Child(ren)
Barraclough, Beryl class of 1959 Ingraham, Jim class of 1963 ................Here's a link to give you access to all the schools in Verdun,..... if you haven't already been there,.check it out: http://www.graduates.com/ls.asp?city=Verdun&pid=5&cid=39&cn=Canada&pn=Quebec ..................................You can check out many of the schools around Quebec too(as well as elsewhere),.......................
Thanks LesF for the Vokey stuff. Quite a large family. I remember leaving All Saints Church after my girls auxiliary meeting. I saw a dead squirrel in front of his house on the road I rmember going to his house next tothe church and told him about what I saw. He took the time to go out and look, and dig a hole to bury it. He took the time to explain to a little kid - the realities of life. That is special. And while we are talking about realities of life. Would you have any ideas why I can't post the regular way. AOL then Verdun Connections. Right now I have to go to Internet Explorer and Google Verdun Connections to post. Laurie
I'm not sure Laurie,..(I'm not sure either if I understand the question),.if there is a problem 'signing in from AOL'.....then I would 'guess' that AOL is not a rcognised server by MSN,. I will see if I can find out something for you ,. my suggestion at this point would be 'bookmark' Verdun Connections' once you've sought it out,.ie: say in Google you type in Verdun Connections,.......there will be plenty of immediate links to us,..then click the 'Sign In' button,....and you should be off & running,.....once you've reached the site ,.just add it to your favourites(same as bookmark),.....and then anytime you want to check in,.just go into your favourites,click on the Verdun Connections link,...and then 'Sign In' and as far as I can see you should not have any problem,...............
Hi Les Thanks for trying to help. I know that sometimes I confuse people when I am trying to explain things. Here we go. I will try again. First of all I get my coffee and start thinking about what to say Ok Ok I'll cut it short. HA HA. Turn on AOL. Get AOLs newspage. Go to My favourites Press Verdun Connections. See VCs front page. Press Message board Get into the topic I want Press reply What happens is that I get either White page wth arrow glass and arrow which just stays. OR HTTP 500 Internal server error, Computers are a conundrum. I am lost. Laurie
Laurie~~ I'm having a real problem this morning, and it seems to be only on MSN. But when I bookmarked VC, I saved it from the message board, not the welcoming page. If I need to see the welcome page, I just press "What's New" and it takes me to that page. I dunno.....but I operate on the KISS principle. And btw, my routine is I sit here in my jammies, have a coffee, etc.......lol Cheers.
Ok Laurie ,...........firsdt thing I see is this See VCs front page. RIGHT IN BETWEEN THESE MOVES .........I think you should 'Sign In' Press Message board ,that's the only thing I see all the other steps seem to be OK ,.but you didn't mention that you Signed In,......if You do 'Sign In' first then you can go to Messages Boards ,..and you should be able to Reply to any post,..otherwise if you go directly to Message Boards,.you'll be able to read them ,.but not Reply and / or Post....... Try That see what happens ,..good luck Btw : the 'Sign In' button is right at the top of the VC page ,just above the MSN ad...............
Laurie here's what you posted Turn on AOL. Get AOLs newspage. Go to My favourites Press Verdun Connections. See VCs front page. THIS is the spot to do the 'Sign In' thing Press Message board Get into the topic I want Press reply What happens is that I get either White page wth arrow glass and arrow which just stays. OR HTTP 500 Internal server error, Sorry just thought the other Msg. may not have been clear enough,??
Thanks Les and Linda Ok The page was there with sign out. Pressed it. Sign in appeared. Little box with
Connect to groups>> password>> sign me in automatically Blue button switches back to sign out. Laurie
I forgot to mention in last entry - that the page still shows up white with hourglass and doesn' t budge.
Hi Laurie - I was born in 1966 and we lived in Crawford Park until 1983. I lived next door to the Stuarts, and Donna used to babysit my sister and me sometimes. The Brackens (Peter and Brian) were on the other side of us. I don't remember the Hulleys. I was friends with Elizabeth Byrne, the youngest Mees boy (I forget his first name), Sue Remmele, Tracey Erickson. We were bused in to St. Thomas More School. Crawford Park School closed the year my sister was to start. Laura
Hi Im glad you wrote back. I remember you, as a little kid next door to the Stewarts on Clemenceau. There was a boy Grant. I am 12 years older than you. I was sort-of friends with Susan Byrne - Elizabeth's sister. The Mees boys. There was the eldest Ted, Robert who works for Westmount as a mechanic. Barry was the youngest. Tracey Erickson lived on Churchill if I remember correctly, a couple of doors down from my sister in laws parents house. She had a brother Their mother was very ill. Wow its a small world. Laurie
Hi Shadow Mam Laurie,........ I knew a Harold Bracken ,he was a Fire Chief in the point for many years,......coul;d this be te father of your friends,.. His name was Harlod Bracken,.and as I say he was a fire chief or Capt. something like that in Montreal (Point area),.....Was a friend of my Dads
Ok we'll have to try & figure that out for you,. I did have a little trouble just trying to post this msg,.as the white page did show a few times ,before allowing me this one,.. Is your problem intermittent?? if so it may be what I was experiencing a few weeks ago ,.not being able to reply at all,.then couldn't even open the site,.then all returned to normal.......... MSN works in mysterious ways,........................hahahahahaha oh yea that's right ,.that's just the other guy isn't it?.....hahahaha
Les F Hey Doc (Ha Ha) The problem is continuous since Friday night. For about one hour Saturday night "the power" returned, then Saturday morning back to square zero and unable to post, Two weeks ago I could not even get into VC via the usual channels. Now I can get in but can not post.
Laurie .
The dad's name was Terrence (Terry) Bracken, so it's not the same person you knew, Les. I suppose it could be a relative, though. They all moved out to BC in the late 70's or early 80's.
Yup definetly not Harold anyway ,unless he moved out here in an Urn, his family though I do believe lived in Verdun,........I don't knkow why but the Brown Blvd area or maybe Beaurling comes to mind,...Although I was never at his house,...................but he was often at my oldmans shop in Point St Charles,..............................but Thanks for clarifying that for me.........
Shadowmama Hi - just yesterday we were chatting about Crawford Park folks. You had mentionned Tracy Erickson. Its strange that a person doesn't even think of a name or a family for years and years. I checked into the Montreal Gazette Obits this morning - and saw that her grandmother - Mrs. Alderly died age 95 -yesterday - formerly of Crawford Park. Just thought I would tell you-perhaps you knew her. Kids usually show off their grandparents especially if they live close by. Laurie
Hi Laurie - I did know Mrs. Alderley. Thank you for letting me know about her passing. I would not have thought she was still with us at such a great age. She was a really nice lady and was good to all us kids. We were talking about them at Christmas because my mother had out the photo albums to show my daughter and my sister's children what we looked like as kids. Several of the birthday party photos had Tracey in them. Are you still in touch with Donna Stewart? I remember she was working in PR (I think) at the Olympic Stadium back when the Olympics were there in 75 and she was able to get tickets to a few of the events and my mother went with Donna's mother.
Interesting Les, That you mention Reverend Vokey of All Saints. He was in a way responsible for the growth of the CPYA (Crawford Park Youth Association) I had a Tuesday night Scout Troop at All Saints and was told that the Friday night Scout group had closed down for lack of members. I used the Friday night space to form a young people's group. When Rev.d. Vokey found out that some members were R.C. he hit the ceiling. He said they could stay if the whole executive was Anglican. Since the President (Brian Connely) and Vice President (Paul Nowlan were both R.C I said no way. We spoke to Bryce Mackasey and got space in the old stone house (Dizier) and shared with the Crawford Park Legion. There was a lot of discontent between the members of both groups so we moved to the Verdun-LaSalle Y. Jack Hopkins who went on to be Dean at Sir George Williams was the executive director and welcomed the group warmly. They stayed for ten years but I only stayed on as their advisor for about two years then took a job out of town. My daughter Kim was their last President. The CPYA ran some great, well controlled dances for over a decade and several kids found their future mate there. Ed
Ed... My husband Paul Nowlan, who you know from those days, speaks fondly of those days! We had a lot of fun at those dances! Dianne
Now that's some interesting history,......................Seems there is or always has been some division from the authority figures........Nice to see it get resoved,with the 'more clear' plan of helping kds get together & learn some things,rather than dividing them to start with.............. One of the things you mentioned was the scout group being held in Maison D izier (not sure of that spelling ,sorry),.....but Ed do you recall what years you are referring to? the reason I ask is ,I had heard of the same building being used (Dizier house) for sea cadets in the 50's ( I don't know for how long ,or exact years ,.I'll see if I can find out) I think you should get together with someone like Guy (for instance) and write a book of things you know of Verdun,..........You always have some interesting elements to ad to make us 'think' about our old hometown,.... Speaking of something like that,..i wonder if Joey-Verdun,.is making progress with his project (re: book of story's & characters) from Verdun/Montreal...............that will be an interesting read as well: I think it's important to listen to the many story's that can come from People around us........................... Again Thanks for the input......edbro
Where is Joey-Verdun? He hasn't been here for some time! Dianne
Les, We stayed in that building for only a few months. The Legion members were coming in on our nights and opening the bar. Some actually offered the kids drinks. I knew we had to get out of there fast. As advisor of the group I was only about ten years older than some of the members. Getting the group into the Y was a great relief for me. We could ask Dianne. I remember Paul was 16 when we started at All Saints. She could do the Arithmetic for us. Paul and Brian were the ones who organized the danced and dick jockeyed them. If there is there such a word? Ed
Ah...Ed.....I think the word is disk jockey or DJ...LOL!!! I didn't go out with Paul during those days....we met a few years later. He was friends with my cousin Peter or Pierre StAmour and I met Paul at my aunt and uncles 25th Wedding Anniversary in 1969. By that time he wasn't DJ'ing the dances but he was on the board of directors for the Y. Dianne
Ah yes Dianne, The Board of Directors. I sat on it for two years. My best buddy loved practical jokes. He told once me not to take a coffee during the break that evening. When they discovered that some one put pinholes in the cups, guess who was the only one without a coffee. People like Doctor Skitch (Director of Douglas Hospital and Ron Bailey (Principal of Verdun High) were wiping off their ties and blaming me. My good buddy sat grinning at me. Naturally, I had to keep quiet. It comes from an old maxim that says if you can't take the heat don't pee in the pool, or something like that. Anyway we still meet for coffee and one day.......... Ed
One more quick post and I gotta go. Not there, to the Doctor. Someone mentioned the Bowes-Lyon family in Crawford Park. the Father, I believe was a cousin of the Queen Mum. Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon. The son Douglas was troop leader at Crawford United. They had a great troop. Jim Jack and Jim Lowson were the Scouters. Jim Jack died suddenly at the age of 30 in Atwater Park. Ed
Hi EdBro You are correct on that. I remember Lottie - his wife telling me that eons ago. Laurie
Happi Di Paul Nowlan you mentionned is your husband. I knew of a Paul Nowlan who lived on Foch in Crawford Park. It wouldn't be him. This Paul Nowlan was about 20 when I was about 8. He was involved in the summer school program at Queen Elizabeth Park, exercising crafts swimming. This fella taught me how to walk on stilts. Would the real Paul Nowlan come on down. No, Seriously. They wouldn't be the same people. would they ? Laurie
i think it is laurie, the same paul.. but what i'd like to know is... what he taught happy di to do on stilts!!!!
RDM Better stll- he also taught me to roller skate on those nasty-ass skates that the had in the early 60s. The ones that strapped onto the shoes. and no way of stopping yourself on those typical Crawford Park sidewalks. There was the driveway dip at every house. It is a wonder I have knees. Anyway, if it is the same Paul, I used to stop and talk and he would supply the bandaids. Laurie
Laurie...Yes, it is one and the same.....Paul's laughing his head off...he says " Oh my god, I hope we taught her something of real value at the park besides walking on stilts ! And Shayne.....that's my secret!!!! Dianne
Laurie here is an old photo from those days...that's Paul and the Mayor George O'Reilly
Laurie...do you have a picture from those days that you can post? Dianne
Happy Di That is him 100% without a doubt. Its a small world. Laurie I will try to dig out a picture of myself at that age. I don't have many. Laurie
My friends and I in front of Don's (aka Bud's) in about 1975 - I'm in the red...see Crawford Park School in the background Me in our back yard on Clemenceau, about 1982 - you can see the side of Crawford Park United Church Me in front of our house on Clemenceau, 1983 My mother in front of our house just before we left Crawford Park (and Quebec). I still miss that house. The St. Lawrence at the foot of Clemenceau, taken in January 1983 I hope some of you like these Laura
sorry, some of my captions turned out funny with the last word of the sentence down below the pic....
a couple more..... Me, my mother and my sister Cathy on our porch in about 1970 Anyone remember the good old St. Thomas More tunic? This is me in 1972.
Les, I will try to find out the year and more about the sea cadets when I get back. Right now I have a Doctor's appointment. I had to take a cold shower as the tank needs renewal. We've waited for Hydre for a week. I could not shave and I swear I have little Irish Spring icicles on my testicles. Besides that I still have green hair from the trick the kids played on Sunday. It won't wash out. It's been hell, I swear if he puts on the rubber glove................ Ed
Laura...Beautiful pictures...thanks for sharing with us. Dianne
now those are nice old pictures,.........Neat to see real life shots,.with familair Verdun spots in the background,......... Good stuff,. Shadow mama Laura............................................. Thanks for the input
Cute cowgirl hats.........................hahaha typical for little kids ,..Looks like your a happy bunch,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Again great pics,...........
We got the hats at Frontier Town! Do you remember that place?
Yes I do sort of recall something like that................any pics from there?
I apologize for the extra junk on the side but you can still read the article
Hi Dianne - This is the only picture I have of myself at that age. Hmm. Grade four - about 9 or 10. the age that I would be going independantly to the park's activities. Tell Paul I lived at 1291 Foch. in Boyles old house, next door was Vachon - he might have known Gordie and Leonard. Down from that was Dade's. Laurie
Shadowmama Great pictures of Crawford Park. Would you know if Crawford Park School is still standing,. Did you know Kim and Karen Maliff - The kids in the picture looked like them. They woul have gone to St Thomas Moore. If you knew Barry Mees did you know the Chatterton kids - Deborah Stephanie and Jennifer my nieces. The Oldest Deborah used to be friends with Barry. Just curious. Laurie
Wow.. frontier town.. that's what's great about this group.. postings that bring out wonderful memories that are stored deep in your mind... when i was a kid it was the highlight of one summer... our visit to frontier town..
That's too bad about Frontier Town. I didn't even know it closed. Land of Make believe was a pretty good place. Upper Canada Village, another. Granby Zoo I wander if it is still running. Laurie
Laurie I just showed Paul your picture and he says he can't recall you but asked what was your maiden name? He remembers the Boyles and Vachon's. Small world, eh? Dianne
Etienne is my maiden name. In Quebec anyone married after 1981 keeps their name. Paul used to stop andtalk to Errol because he had a purebred afghan show dog which was the conversation piece on the street. That dog was sooooo stupid it S#8@ on the floors, chewed sheets off the clothesline, chewed a hole into a tent we had airing out. Many a morning my mother would be running along Foch avenue up to Lasalle boulevard in her nightie trying to catch the dog. It used to attack people. My brother sent it out to a boarding training joint in Ile Bizard and it came back mangie and vicious so he ended up giving the dog away to two vets.
Good eye, Laurie - those are Kim and Karen Maliff. I am still good friends with Kim; she lives in Lasalle, Karen's in Dorval. I did know the Chattertons. We used to play with them a lot in the laneway behind the houses on Foch. What are they up to now? I live in Mississauga, Ontario now but the last time I went by Crawford Park (about a year and half ago now) the school was still there.
Shadowmama This is incredible. I am finding out about alot of stuff today on VC. We used to live at one point before I moved out on my own on Lasalle Boul between Foch and Fayolle. There was a lane there that all the kids would congregate. The Chatterton girls are all in BC. now.
Granby Zoo and Upper Canada Village are still there. We took our daughter in July 2006 to Upper Canada Village. A few of my husband's sisters and brothers still live in Verdun and they take their families to Granby Zoo. Laurie, I wonder if you knew my cousins from Crawford Park: Heather and Brent Graham and Anne Bowker?
i knew anne bowker and i believe heather graham
wow, small world here today! Anne lived on Crawford Bridge, their house was demolished to build the hospital there. Then they moved to Fayolle. Anne is a professor at Carleton University in Ottawa. Brent is older than Heather. They lived on Clemenceau just above Churchill. Brent is now a very esteemed orthopedic surgeon here in Toronto. Heather lives in London,ON.
Brent Graham Of course. He was so sweet. Graduated the same year as I. I believe he went out with Sharon Robertson from Fayolle. I remember he was interested in Botany then medicine. He is a doctor at Toronto General.I saw him on one of those medcal programs. Heather was a few years younger. They bought the Bottomleys House on Clemenceau right next to the lane. I think the address was 1291 C. Laurie
Thanks Laurie, Now I know whose dog that was. I'm going to sue you for the price of one Argyle sock. My parents lived on Foch Crescent and I'm sur that I once met that dog. You can save court costs by mailing me one argyle pattern sock for the left foot. If used please wash. Ed
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EdBro - I looked up in the Lovells directory where my husbands grandparents The Thomases lived on Foch Crescent - It was 1652 Foch Cr. Did you know the West Family I used to play with Lynn Laurie .
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Laurie, You have hit the nail on the head. My sister still lives at 1652 Foch Crescent. My Father bought the house from Mr.Thomas when he remarried. Will give more information when sock is completed. Ed
Hi EdBro This is incredible. In the past couple of days I have "dug up" so many people from my past. When my husbands gf remarried Winnie Bray they lived in a house on Crawford Bridge. near Churchill. and Winnie died about 15 years ago. This is a great way of having a social life - getting to chat with people about familiar stuff. Life gets pretty lonely out here in Kingston.
Laurie I feel the same over here in Nova Scotia!! Dianne
Laurie, I remember thw West family. Barry West was Editor of the Verdun Guardian. When a heart attack took him his wife took over. She was also Secretary for Bryce Mackasey. Lyn was very young when her Father died. The family moved to California where her Mother had a job. Ed
Ed Bro Thanks for the news on the West family. I always wandered where they went. Did you know the Nicolls - one son George and one Robbie. They did the Montreal Star Route It's funny when you were joking about our family dog, it brought back a memory to me Mayor O'Reilly's dogs. He had a boxer - so help me G*d. If that beast connected with anyone it would have taken the legs off them. Anyone that passed the house was greated by a growling and barking chorus. I was scared to death. Laurie
It seems to me that young Danny O Rielly used to bring that boxer up to Queen Elizabeth Park. It was friendly away from the house where it probably didn't need to feel protective. I did not know the Nickle family. Ed
EdBro The Nicoll family lived at 1735 Foch Crescent. Laurie
Laurie...did you know Alison Hart? The Hart's lived on Foch, too...don't know the address. Dianne
Dianne The name sounds a little bit familar. There were alot of new families moving in and out on that Street. Where abouts can y ou remember. like below Churchill, above, or on the Crescent ? Laurie
Hi Dianne Looked Hart up in the Lovells - 1215 Foch. The name is familiar as mentioned before. I guess they lived near Duggans at 1220. Does Paul remember a rather rotund individual who walked around the street shirtless and was extremely inquisitive about stuff. He used to yell alot at kids. His name was Tony. I think he lived at the duplexes at the end of Foch just before the lane. Laurie
Hi Laurie...when Paul gets up I'll ask him about Tony. Paul lived at 1203 Foch. When he was about 11 or so he and another friend were playing cowboys and Indians (I know that isn't politically correct these days but it was the 50's) in the back lane and Alison wanted to play and she bugged and bugged them so finally they gave in and they said she would have to be the bad guy. So the bad guy got caught and they tied her to a telephone pole and ran off still playing the game but then they forgot her being tied to the pole and I guess she was there for a long time before someone found her and set her free! Paul said she never bugged them again after that!! I met Alison a few years later. She dated my cousin Pierre (Pete) StAmour and he played foot ball for the Black and Gold team in Verdun in those days. This is a lot of fun remembering these stories! Dianne
Laurie, I did not actually live on Foch Crescent. My family lived there. By the time they moved there I had moved on. I knew more people through my involvement with organizing hockey and dances in the Park. Ed
Dianne, I remember Pete St.Amour. Ask him if he remembers the dances at the old rec hall on Church. It was the dorm where the firemen used to sleep. Made a great dance hall, no poles. I used to get the kids doing the 'Grand March' ending in a circle where they'd do the 'Hokey Pokey and 'Mexican Hat Dance'. I used to get Pete to lead off. Ed
LOL...Ed....I can just see my cousin Pete doing that...he hasn't changed, well, like all of us, older and grayer...LOL!!! Next time I see him I'll mention it to him!!! He lives in Moncton, N.B. Dianne
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Linda...will do! Dianne
Dianne, get Peter on the site. Ed
Ed....Peter has told me he has no use for computers...but next time I see him I'll tell him about you being on VC and coachbim.....maybe that will make him curious! But , btween you and me, Peter can be pretty stubborn. BTW...I don't see him very often, the last time was last summer in Moncton. Dianne
Edbro, You will never guess who sent me an e mail. Lynn West, an "old" friend. Apparently, some fellow John (you know who you are) sent your entry to Lynn who contacted me after alllllllll thooooose yeaaaars. Pretty nice to be re-acquainted. Laurie ( and thankyou )
Laurie, At our age, watch who you call 'old'. Ed
EdBro I didn't use "OLD" in a detrimental way. Don't forget....Wine gets better with age, so does cheese, antiques get more valuable, antique cars, old toys, you name it. This site thrives on nostalgia - old stuff. So I am peacefully sitting here at my age, cursing my failing mind, with my female pattern baldness, cursing my aching bones, wishing I had my youth back knowing what I know now !! Does this make sense. (How's your green hair by the way)
Old - Yes. Have a great day Laurie
Laurie, Personally I don't mind being called old but I resent being called an adult. Ed
EdBro Here is a toast to eternal youth. Laurie
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