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It may have been Pain Moderne, which was sold by Canada Bakery as well as their own and they were a supplier to Steinbergs. Gordo.
Hi Bubbacut, I lived on Montgomery Drive in Glen Abbey from August 1993 to September 2002. I retired in 2001 and decided to move to London, Ontario to do what every grandparents are supposed to do "babysit". Have a good day. Reggie Paine
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Hi Jean Marie, Sorry I cannot help out on that question. Maybe Guy or Art would know but I will ask my brother if he remembers and let you know. Reggie Paine
Hi Bubbacut, It is a small world isn't it. As for patience with the grandchildren you don't need any. Let them do as they like because we send them home to their parents. Reggie Paine
Hello ! Remember the famous open truck of Coca Cola (in the 1950s) . I can’t find a photo of those on the Net but I found an older truck (1909)... JM
Re: that photo of Verdun looking like a small village. As I do not live in Verdun, could jmhachey please tell me where that photo was taken -- looks like it might be a nice quiet area of town to visit.
Dave Pinto
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>To: "Verdun Connections"
>Subject: Re: Verdun yesteryears
>Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 12:54:46 -0700
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What is or was Calcos Island?
I checked this with my co-worker Mike King at The Gazette -- Mike lives in Verdun -- and he has never heard of Calcos Island.
Dave Pinto
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>To: "Verdun Connections"
>Subject: Re: Verdun yesteryears
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Hi Dave (Dave Pinto)! Indeed, Verdun is a nice quiet town to visit ! The photo was taken by a friend of mine (a Verdunite) presumably from a structure behind Ecole secondaire Mgr Richard, foot of Henri-Duhamel St. or Champlain Bridge. JM
Hello Dave (Dave Pinto) ! Calcos Island was the biggest (100,000. sq.ft, close to the eastern limits of Verdun) of the small islands surrounding Verdun before the filling of the river banks which expanded between the mid of the 1950s and the end of the 1960s. Calcos Island was bought by the City of Verdun in 1955 for $25,000. The owners of the island were two Montrealers P. M. Shannon and F. Young. Source: Les Il척ts disparus de Verdun Les Argoulets, vol. 9, No 3, p. 14 (2004), ISSN 1201-706 X. and references cited therein. Société d’histoire et de généalogie de Verdun. Jean-Marie Hachey. Hoping that this information will be of some help, JM
Hello ! Do you remember this place in Verdun ? Photo taken around 1940 JM
Hello ! Do you remember this church in Verdun ? JM
Looks like the church on Moffat, I think it was called Verdun United,
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VERDUN UNITED IS ON WOODLAND NEXT TO DAWSONS,THE CHURCH ON MOFFAT WAS ST JOHNS DEVINE BIM
I was in verdun this afternoon and saw this church. It is now called Faith Christian Center
514-767-7720
962, rue Moffat,
Verdun, QC H4H 1Y8 I don't know what earlier name it might have had.
Hi multipurposeutensil ! You’re right ! Faith Christian Center of Montreal (Former: St. John the Divine) 962 Moffat Avenue Verdun, Quebec H4H 1Y8 JM
Hello ! Do you remember the name of that church in Verdun ? (5500 Bannantyne, corner Woodland) Photo Album: More Present Day Verdun Photos
Author: JohnnyO Photo. Ref: Verdun Buildings_1232.JPG JM
The Church on the corner of Woodland and Bannantyne is or was Olivet Baptist
Church.
Hello Ruth ! You’re right ! It was Olivet Baptist Church. Now: Église Baptiste évangélique de la Grâce/Olivet Baptist 5500, rue Bannantyne Verdun http://www2.ville.montreal.qc.ca/plan-urbanisme/pdf/2_4/041123_patrimoine_24.pdf It’s good to see that it is classified as a heritage building ! (so it will not be transformed into another MacDonald’s) JM
Hello ! Do you know the name of and the location of this church in Verdun ? Photo Album: More Present Day Verdun Photos Author: JohnnyO Photo. Verdun Buildings_1229.JPG (21/05/2005) JM
Hi ! Here's a tougher one (?) ... Can you identifie this building in Verdun ? Photo by Andr챕 Phaneuf, 21 May 2005. JM
Hey jmhachey Was that the French Church on Wellington just west of May Ave. Steve
Hi Steve (give me one 1) ! You’re ok for the location but this church has never been a French institution ! JM
Hi JM. Didn't that used to be McGillvary's Funeral Parlour? Art
Hi Art (VReader9) ! Yes, it was McGillivray’s Funeral Home Now: Parish Saint Athanasius 514-768-4198 3067 Wellington, Verdun, QC H4G 1S9 JM
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Re: J.W. McGillivray; Would that be the son John McGillivray, with the horse farm ? He was in my grade 7 class at LaSalle Road School 1946-47. He is in the class photo on the LaSalle Road School "Message Board of 4/26/2005 - 10:17 PM." He's in the back row, 5th "head" from the right. Art
Re JW McGillivray The sons names were Kenneth and Malcolm, and as far as I know they both went to Rushbrooke School with my brothers Ken & Bruce. My Mother married John McGillivray and we lived upstairs from the funeral home for a few years, before moving to Lasalle.
Re JW McGillivray Reading back message John doesn't sound right, although that was is name, Mr. MacGillivray was known to everyone as Bill.
was your Mums single name Audrey , sorry last name just slipped my
mind. Did she go to Bannantyne School?
Margo
Hello ! Who remember the terminal loop (Wellington-Rielle-LaSalle Blvd-Gordon) for the 58-Wellington streetcar ? JM
I remember the 58 Wellington St Car, took it almost daily to go to High School
Hi Judy ! Was the appearance and color of the streetcar you took similar to this one ? JM
Logo POM: Look at the difference between the old and the actual one. Unfortunately, I have no color logo for the old model, but as far as I can remember these were about the same as in the new one. The old model shows more « graphic implication » of the three bakers ... JM
Interesting picture of the street car. You'll notice that it's the Wellington Strret #58 coming out of the old Wellington Tunnel just to the east of bridge Street. You can teel its coming out of the tunnel mainly because the electrical pickup rod is normally in the trailing position.
Too bad the angle obscures the running number of the tram but I believe this is a lightweigth prepayment type tramcar built at the Canadian Car & Foundy on Notre Dame Street.
Tramcars used in Montreal were normally 46 1/2 feet long by 8ft 5in wide. Some earlier cars had been longer, restricting their use in parts of the Old City because of narrow streets and tight corners.
I'm not an expert in automobiles so I can't discern the year of the taxi next to it but given that Tramways stopped running on August 30th 1959, the age of the automobile and the fact that the locomotive pulling the train on the top of the hill is a diesel loco which only came into widespread usage in the late 50's I say the photo is circa 57-59?
Hello JM, My recollection was that the Wellington 58 went around a small park at Woodland and Wellington to return east. The Notre Dame 25 did a "3 point turn" at Rielle and Wellington . Ernie, I would have to say the car in your photo is a 1952 Chev or Pontiac. By the way, what do you mean by a "prepayment" type tramcar? Art
Hello Art ! Answer to your message No 650: (part 1 of 2: 58-Wellington) « My recollection was that the Wellington 58 went around a small park at Woodland and Wellington to return east. » Art. You are referring to the Woodland loop (Wellington-Woodland -LaSalle Blvd-Argyle) then back eastward on Wellington. The Woodland loop was inaugurated in 1924. From 1899 till 1924, the tramway on line 58-Wellington used the Rielle loop (Wellington-Rielle-LaSalle Blvd-Gordon). From the inauguration of circuit 58-Ontario & Wellington in 1893 till 1899, the streetcar didn’t come in Verdun. Note: Names of Route 58: (terminals in Verdun) 1893-1899: 58-Ontario & Wellington (whye* at Wellington & Beresford) (Pt. St.Charles) 1899-1912: 58-Ontario & Wellington (Loop: Wellington-Rielle-LaSalle Blvd-Gordon) 1912-1924: 58-Wellington. (Loop: Wellington-Rielle-LaSalle Blvd-Gordon) 1924-1957: 58-Wellington. (Loop: Wellington-Woodland -LaSalle Blvd-Argyle) Note: *whye :3 point turn Route 58-Wellington began its service in Verdun in 1899 and the streetcar were removed on April 28, 1957. === Answer to your message No 650: (part 2 of 2: 25-Notre-Dame-C척te St-Paul) « The Notre Dame 25 did a "3 point turn" at Rielle and Wellington . . » Art. This was the whye used on Route 25 for the period 1919-1922 Here is how it worked: Coming from the south on Church, the tram turned west on Wellington, south on Rielle on a short distance, then backward on Rielle, backward on Welllington and finally forward east on Wellington up to Church northward. From 1918 (inauguration) till 1953 (end of trams on that line), Route 25 used successively 3 whyes and 2 loops in Verdun. Sources: PHARAND, Jacques et al. Network Modifications au r챕seau 1886-1966, CD-ROM, Montr챕al, (2000). http://www.publicationweb.com/jacques-pharand/ PHARAND, Jacques. Personnal communication. May 2005. Hoping this will be of some help, JM
JM, As usual you have come up with a detailed reply. Great stuff! Still waiting to hear what Ernie meant by the "pre payment type tramcar" ??? Art
Hi Art ! A correction to my text (Post 651): wye (not whye). Wye A triangular arrangement of tracks forming the letter Y used for turning cars and engines. http://www.trains.com/glossary/glossaryview_user.asp?idGlossaryTerm=824&chrGlossaryTermSearch=&intRecordStart=1 Wye: (UK: triangle): Three railroad tracks in a triangular form with switches at all three corners. With sufficient lengths of track leading away in all three directions, a wye can turn a train of any length. http://encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/Rail_terminology Have a nice day ! JM
Hi JM, The picture of the street car sure brings back good memories....thanks very much Judy
I remember the streetcar loop at Rielle & Wellington.We lived on the second floor of where the Royal Banks is today. I well remember the screeches as the streetcars made their loop, but after a while you didn't notice it anymore. The churches used to hold meetings on the opposite corner, and we sang right along with them. This would be in 1942. I went to Lasalle Road then. Jacqueline
Hello Ernie (Ernie Loiselle) ! If you go to the website of the STM, you will see No 2454 and the photo taken in 1959: http://www.stm.info/en-bref/tramways/description/S61112_D29.htm 2 errors in that text of the STM: 1) The running number of the tram was 2654 according to Jacques Pharand, author of a book on Montreal’s Tramways. (Furthermore, you will find no such number as 2454 in the roster of the book of Richard M. Binns Montreal’s Electric Streetcars published in 1973) 2) The photo was taken before 1959 because the streetcars were replaced by buses on Wellington on April 28, 1957. On the other hand, I agree with you: Tramways stopped running on August 30th 1959. Concerning your remark: « prepayment type tramcar », I have to give the following precision: The PAYE (Pay As You Enter) system was inaugurated in Montreal on May 4th, 1905. The M.T.C. spent 10 more years (1905-1914) to complete the transformation of all their vehicles to the PAYE system. Rem.: The PAYE system was a worldwide technical revolution created in Montreal by Duncan McDonald and W.G. Ross of the Montreal Street Railway and its successor Montreal Tramways Company. So the streetcar in the photo is obviously equiped with a PAYE system. JM
See everybody! With guys like Les and JM you can get answers to anything! Art
Hi Ralph ! Thanks for many original pics ! Re: Photo Album: Ralphies pics Author: Ralphie (multipurposeutensil) Photo. DSC01726.JPG (29/05/2005) I have 2 questions on that pic: « Formerly Emmanuel Baptist Church in the 60's » 1) Where is/was Emmanuel Baptist Church ? (The address on the pic seems to be 450 ... ???) 2) Is it now ?: Christ in the City Church, 7376 Truman Av., Verdun, QC H4H 2H8. 514-761-4490 JM
Hi Ralph ! OK, I have found that church. Église Évangélique Associée de Verdun Phone: (514) 768-8446 Fax: (253) 323-7484 350 Woodland, Verdun, QC H4H 1V6 Pastor - Rev. Pierre Blais Assistant Pastor - Rev. Del Gibbons, "mailto:delgibbons@yahoo.ca" http://www.agcofcanada.com/agcdirqc.htm JM
Hi JM;
Emmanuel Baptist Church was at 350 Woodland Avenue, between
Wellington St. and Verdun avenue. My family went there during the 60's. My
uncles Eric and Brian, as well as my sister Dianne, were all married there
between 1962 and 1966. The minister at the time was Pastor (John?)McLeod.
The congegration moved to a school in Lasalle and had there services in the
gymnasium, and Sunday school classes in classrooms. (perhaps Lachine Rapids
School ???) Later they merged with another church and called themselves
Verdun Lasalle Baptist Church, on the corner of Gorden &
Verdun. When this buliding was recently demolished they bought an old
grocery store on the corner of Wellington & 3rd avenue where they still have
services.
I don't know the name of the organization that presently uses 350
Woodland avenue, but I believe it is of a religious nature. Hope this info
is of some interest, Ralph.
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Hello Ralph ! Thank you for the historical notes about Emmanuel Baptist Church. In post 659, I have given some info on the actual occupant of this church (350 Woodland). .The latest location of the Baptist Church on Wellington corner 3rd Ave is: Verdun Lasalle Baptist Church
514-769-6051
4750, rue Wellington,
Verdun, QC H4G 1X3
JM
Hey jmhachey
I think the Church is on Woodland Ave.just north of the candy store.
I think the place where it was built was owned by a man that we use to
call"OLD MAN BEN",he had an old model"T".
Steve
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Hi Chris, That would be Kenneth, I thought the daughters name was Kendra, could be wrong though, it has been a long time. Ken worked with his Dad in the Funeral homes. Malcolm had a farm in the Eastern townships. Judy
CHRIS, KEN MCGILLIVRAY IS KENDAS DAD. HE MOVED YEARS AGO TO THEIR FARM IN WEST BROME. HE RAISES CATTLE. I BELIEVE HIS WIFE BARBARA DIED A FEW YEARS AGO. JUDY'S OLDER BROTHER
Hi Steve ! You’re right ! The church in post 658 is located at: 350 Woodland, Verdun, QC H4H 1V6 (more info in post 659) *** As a truck specialist, did you ever drive a truck equipped with 2 driving positions ? The regular one on the left (seated position) and an extra one on the right side (standing position). Many trucks used for the collection of recyclables have 2 driving positions. Here is a photo of a truck with a standing driver: POM bakery truck of the 50’s In those years, the driver had a small retractable seat used for longer distances. ... Look at the stretcars in the background. JM
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Hey jmhachey
That's a good pic. of the driver standing up
in the P.O.M. truck.
Here the Garbage trucks that operate with no helpers
have the driver standing up on the right side of the truck.
The street sweepers the driver drives from the right side
of the truck,but they are seated. I also driven a tandem
dump truck equiped with two transmissions, was called
a five and four.
Steve
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Hi Chris, Sorry do not know where she is, but maybe my brother Bruce does, and when he reads this can reply to you. Judy
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CHRIS, I suggest you try to contact Kendras dad KEN at his farm in West Brome. He operated GLENCAMERON FARMS in Knowlton or WEST BROME.If you go to dogpile.com or google .com or yahoo.com you should be able to get a line on him. BRUCE
Hi Chris Glad my brother answered, I live in Peterborough, Ont.. Bruce lives in Ponte Claire. Judy
Hello ! Canadiens de Montr챕al en 1953 Montr챕al Canadiens in 1953 Dollard St-Laurent est un Verdunois d’origine. Il était venu nous visiter à l’École supérieure Richard, 200 Galt, en 1953. Dollard St-Laurent is born in Verdun. He came to visit us at l’École supérieure Richard, 200 Galt, in 1953. Une autre version de la m챗me photo: Another version of the same photo: http://www.chez.com/dralloc/maurice.html JM
Verdun, June 1st, 2005 Photo by Andr챕 Phaneuf JM
JM - What a spectacular photo.
JM you out did yourself. That photo is a keeper! Wow! Thanks.
Bill (Montreal Canadian Fan from the 50s)
"Kwitchyerbellyakin."
- Irish saying
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Hi Bob (bubbacut) ! Andr챕 Phaneuf is a native of Verdun, still living in Verdun. I knew him by surfing on the Net. You will know more about Andr챕 Phaneuf if you visit his websites: http://pages.globetrotter.net/aphane/journal.htm http://pages.globetrotter.net/aphane/ Good surfing ! JM
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My grandfather William Cooper lived on Ethel St. for a long time, as
did my aunt and cousin (Nora and Steven).
Bill
"There's nothing constant in the world,
All ebb and flow, and every shape that's born
Bears in its womb the seeds of change."
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Hi ! Here are 3 old maps of Verdun (two of 1907 and one sooner) One will observe that many names have been replaced: Ethel (Laggar), Gertrude (Kalmar), Evelyn (Innisfail), Mullarky Ave (section of Lasalle Blvd btwn Wellington & Eastern Limits), LaSalle Blvd (Lower Lachine Road), Joseph (Holmfield), Claude (Field), Ross (Rose), etc... *** JM
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Les, Maggie, (Anyone out there!!!) This message board with the great pictures comes to me about 3 times the width of my screen and takes forever to download because of this. Can anything be done about it? Coming in this large sure spoils the effect! Art
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Are you interested ? Freeware Home - The most complete Collection of free software and Internet services. http://www.freewarehome.com/ JM
Do you remember this vehicle and its route once very popular ? JM
Hi Jean-Marie, I am going to say this is one of the first one man operated cars. The first one man cars did not have a rear seat and they had double doors however only one of the rear doors would open. They were built this way incase the one man operated cars did not work out, they could convert them to two man operated cars. The one man operated cars turned out to be successful. Thereafter the one man operated cars that were built had a single rear door and a rear window seat. The Windsor 83 line used this first series of one man operated car almost exclusively. Therefore my guess will be The Windsor 83 streetcar line-Walter
Hello Walter ! The rear window of that streetcar shows EX Not too helpful to determine the route. I agree with you: this car was one-man operated. The following description is given on the STM website: Tramway #1930. – 1953. (my translation) Closed electric streetcar, built by Canadian Car and Foundry in 1926 for the Montreal Tramways Company and removed between 1954 and 1958 by Montreal Transportation Commission. Back inside view of tramway # 1930, class 1900, in 1953. Tramway #1930. – 1953. Tramway 챕lectrique ferm챕, construit par la Canadian Car and Foundry en 1926 pour la Montreal Tramways Company et retir챕 entre 1954 et 1958 par la Commission de transport de Montr챕al. Vue int챕rieure vers l'arri챔re du tramway # 1930, classe 1900, en 1953. *** On page 77 of his book, Richard M. Binns writes the following interesting details concerning the one-man car: « ... Actually it was found that higher schedule speeds could be achieved with one-man operation than with two-man cars on medium to fairly heavy traffic routes. The reasons for this rather surprising fact were twofold. First, the operator was in a better position to co-ordinate his work to take the best advantage of traffic signals and situations at intersections, rather than being dependant in part on signals from conductor working more or less blindly at the rear. Second, being solely responsible for the car’s operation he had a greater pride and interest in its performance. An additionnal five cents per hour was paid to one-man operators. ... » Regarding line Windsor, There were numerous Windsor lines: Windsor-64, Windsor-70, Windsor-83, Windsor-170, Windsor-St.Lawrence-70 Windsor-Montreal-West-70, Windsor-Snowdon-83. Windsor-83 (terminals: Place Garland and Place d’Armes) existed from 1917 till 1956. Sources: BINNS, Richard M. Montreal's Electric Streetcars: an illustrated history of the tramways era: 1892 to 1959. Montr챕al: Railfare, 1973, 151 p. PHARAND, Jacques et al. Network Modifications au r챕seau 1886-1966, CD-ROM, Montr챕al, (2000). Thanks for the infos on one-man cars and line Windsor-83. JM
Hello ! Who remember the old Verdun Horticultural Society ? Where was it located ? What is now on this site ? JM
Hehe...the best damn weeds in Verdun......(giggling here)
JM, is there a "botanical garden" there now?
Hi beeaired ! Do you include these plants in the weeds family ? JM
Hi MaggieMcK ! Verdun Catholic High School (6100 Champlain Blvd) was built on the site on the old Verdun Horticultural Society. JM
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Hello ! Do you recognize this old building in Verdun ? JM
RCMP have a real problem wid dem..lmao!!
Do you know the following institutions (past or present) in Verdun ? Verdun Catholic High School 6100 Champlain Blvd.
Verdun *** Argyle Academy 6100, boulevard Champlain
Verdun QC H4H 1A5 ***
Beurling Academy: 6100 Champlain Blvd.
Verdun, H9R 3J5
Tel: 766-2357
http://beurling.lbpsb.qc.ca/ JM
Hi Beeaired ! ROFLMAOWTIME JM
Hi Les ! This old bldg still preserved at the foot of Rielle was the « Water Works Pump House » (official name on City of Verdun map of 1913): City of Verdun, Qu챕. / Chas. E. Goad Co. - 1913: http://www4.bnquebec.ca/cargeo/accueil.htm then search under « Index des toponymes » under V for Verdun. BTW, I took that shot at my last visit (June 17-20) in Verdun (photo album in preparation) That pic is a reduced version of the original. JM
Correction: We spent 3 days in Montreal but only about 3 hours in Verdun ... not long enough for me !!! JM
Hi Fresco (Walter) ! May be you will be interested in the following map of Montreal Tramways Co (1941): http://www4.bnquebec.ca/cargeo/high/TRBA0141a_n.jpg JM
Thanks for the map Jean-Marie. You can see Snowden Junction on it. There was a time when streetcars ran all the way to Pte Aux Trembles. I think they were stopped around 1935 due to low patronage. Guy Street had streetcars that ran south of Dorchester but also was not used very much & got changed to bus service. Hope you're having a great summer up there in God's Chicoutimi country. It has to be spectacular there now-Walter
Hi Fresco (Walter) ! Thanks for the infos on Pointe-aux-Trembles and Guy St. Quite warm in Chicoutimi today (ca 30째C) ... and West Palm Beach (only 26째C) ... Here is a refreshing pic: Streetcar No 1859 serving on line 17-Cartierville on Bois Franc Road (now Henri-Bourassa), January 16, 1959. JM
Hi ! These warm temperatures remind me of the « Ice Cream Parlors » ! Do you remember some of them in Verdun ? ... and their location.
Do you remember this place in Verdun ?
Hello ! What about the large bldg in the background ? ... and the one on the right ? JM
Is it not the school you went to , & I used to skate in everynight,,,,,,and CKVL on the right handside,,,,,,I do not recognize the white bldg.on the left, as that is where my backyard was,.......and I beleive Greenbergs built it's new bldg there,after having to move to make way for the Metro Station which was at Greenberg's old location of Galt & Wellington,.......it looks to me that the photographer is standing at the entrance to lane from Gordon Av .....looking towards your old school.........but it has beem many years since I've been back and that lane looks awful clean,from I Remembered.........I am close....? HF&RV
Hi Jean-Marie, You have me stumped on the photo locations. My favorite ice cream parlor was just down the street from my aunt & uncle's place in Outremont. It was Robil's Ice Cream on Bernard Avenue. It was fantastic, absolutely fantastic. I loved the place-Walter
Hi Les ! You are absolutely right on all your descriptions: This is my old school l’École supérieure Richard, 200 Galt (now a coop housing: Coopérative d‘habitation L’Aternative). I didn’t know that Greenberg’s was located on the left in the pic. BTW, on my post 715, you mentioned (RV 4326) the red top pavillon, and ...what about the proeminent chimney: was it the one of Verdun Model school ? Here is another pic (your will recognize the site): (I took all these photos last Sunday June 19, during my 3 hour visit in Verdun) JM
Les, When you skated everynight in the school by CKVL did you have to climb a fence to get to the rink or was it open? Do they still have open rinks in the parks these days or is it all indoor artificial ice now? Remember the excitement when the outdoor rinks in the park would finally have frozen ice. I can remember freezing my toes off, returning home amd my grandmother would rub my toes until they got some life back in to them. My grandmother would lecture me that when I started to feel cold, come home. But you'd never learn and freeze them again. When the rinks stopped in the spring it wasn't too bad because you knew that summer was right around the corner. I can remember in the summers of 58 & 59 going to a new indoor rink that stayed open all summer. It was in The Town of Mt Royal. I do not remember the location or how to get there. Addmission was 50 cents. It was a good long bus ride and a great place to go with a date if you wanted to get away from everyone you knew.
Do you recognize the large building in this pic ? JM
Hi JMH I would say you took this photo from the corner of Rielle & Wellington.if you look up the street that sure looks to me like the back of St Willibrord's Church,..where I tried to escape going to, if I could as a kid,..and invest my collection money in something far more worthwhile .......like the candy store,,,,,..hahahahahah HF&RV
hi Fresco re: the skating every night,.....generally as the winter days passed,and the rink got cleaned of snow,and the lanes got plowed to the edges...you could litterally walk along the snowbank and step over the fence .....but I believe the single gate closer to the rink was left open most of the time (with the exception of summertime....when we used to climb the fence and use the schoolyard for our baseball games and other kidstuff games..you could bounce a ball off the wall at the end of the schoolyard because it was actually the wall of the Vercun City Yards,......so the wall was quite high..........ps: nothing like playing baseball on a solid paved schoolyard.......but all the paitned lines for other sports came in handy as they would become our home ,1st 2nd & 3rd bases................there were actually three entrance to this schoolyard ....one single gate on Galt ave...at the far side of the school(far side from Wellington) and straight across from that entrance was a single gate opening into the laneway ( the lane that separated Gordon & Galt ) and then if you look at JMH's photo again you will see straight at the end of the laneway is a green bush or tree's well that little lane actually jogged slightly to left of the photo and there was a double gate (large enough to drive a vehicle in) also to the left of that was a small laneway for walking between the end of the school and the back of the City & District Savings bank ) where the kids could enter their respective classes via the outside 'fire escape' ( steel of course) all in all I spent a lot of the winter on that rink....as I could be there in less than a minute (wearing my skates of course) and I would stay till my oldman yelled out the back door to come home ........(him I could hear) but I convienently never heard my mother calling....hahahahahaha HF&RV
Fresco, I guess we were lucky, because at the Brown Blvd rink we had a "Shack" as it was called at the time, to put on our skates, leave your boots under the bench and go out and skate. If your feet got cold you could go in and warm up. Also when you were done skating your boots were still there. Can you just imagine doing that today. It's a sad commentary on society. Just like the old open coke delivery trucks recently posted. Now everything is closed up tight because of theft. Ruth
Good morning Les ! Yes, it’s the back of St. Willibrord’s Church ... but where was the candy store where you invest your money in ? ... and what kind of candies ? ... Oh Henry, Chiclets, Cherry Blossom, Popsicle, ... :-))) Note: In 1905, the Popsicle was invented by an eleven-year-old Frank Epperson. Frank Epperson was only 11 years old when he invented the originally named Epsicle. He had left his fruit flavored soda outside on the porch with a stir stick in it. The drink froze to the stick and tasted good. It took 18 more years in 1923 for Epperson to apply for a patent for a "frozen ice on a stick" called the Epsicle ice pop, which his children re-named the Popsicle. http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blpopsicle.htm JM
Les, your historical description of my schoolyard is so accurate and so vivid to me more than fifty years later ... Thanks ! JM
Hello JMH , you won't believe this,but one of my most favourite things to buy,....was exactly what you have posted,....... Cherry Blossom's ,I think they were .10cents.........but I have a recollection of them being a quarter as well.....(perhaps later on,I guess) ......... there was many little stoes around Verdun , ( as I'm sure you know) .....and all of them quite willing to accept your little money you had.......hahahahah HF&RV
Les, as you can see, many changes occurred in the schoolyard ... The lane appears more ecological than in the 50’s JM
On the right, the red brick wall of CKVL (now CKOI) Someone was repairing his car in front of his garage ... JM
Hi Ruth, I like that setup. We put on skates on at home and had to go two blocks. Usually the rubber skate guard would be put over the blade. Somedays when there was new snow on the sidewalks we'd try and skate down. Coming home with those cold feet was not fun. One nasty thing I did when I was about ten, and I did it only once, was put my tongue on the steel banister rail. Fortunately my buddy Kingsley from next door was with me. He got my grandmother who came running with warm water. Every Christmas time I try and watch the Jean Shepherd movie "A Christmas Story." Jean narrates a story about Christmas in Cleveland when he was a kid. There is a scene where little Jean gets his tongue stuck on a steel pole which always pains me when I see it. Also if you don't blink in that movie you'll see a Cleveland streetcar go by. Hope all's well in your section of Florida. A lot of Winn-Dixie stores are going to be closed in West Palm Beach-Walter
Jean-Marie, Great photo, I had no idea of the location. I'll recognize CKVL from the front anyday with that fantastic theatre type sign that they had. Any idea why CKVL changed their call letters to CKOI ? CKVL was so popular, why fix something that's not broke. Do you know if Leo La Chance is still alive? What a great radio station. The weekend overnight request & dedication show was really fun-Walter
Good morning Walter! I took that photo (VY Message 716) from the the angle in the lane behind CKVL. (Canadian Kilocycles Verdun LaSalle) If you look at my photo (VY Message 716), I was in the angle of the lane, behind my old school) Of course, I remember Léon Lachance, Claude Séguin, Jacques Desbaillets, Jacques Normand, Billy Munroe, Roger Beaulu, etc..., . I don’t know if Léon Lachance is still alive. Also remember the « Hit Parade » and « La parade de la chansonnette française » animated by Léon. I don’t know why they changed their call letters to CKOI (maybe to look more modern ???). Unfortunately, they didn’t do like Coca Cola who came back to the « classic » Coke after removing it from the market for a short period. As we used to say « Never change a winning formula ». Apparently, CKOI is always good in the ratings. Remember: CKVL and CKVL-FM Verdun, on the air 24 hours a day ! Here is a photo of CKVL (now CKOI) taken on June 19, 2005. Note: A new CKVL on the Net: Radio Internet 24 /24 hrs. http://www.ckvl.ca/ JM
JMH , I notice in this more recent picture of CKVL (choi) that there is no longer a huge Tower in the back (they always chased us kids away,from trying to climb on it) ........I guess the satellite dish has replaced such towers........I wonder how many times (if any) the tower was hit by lightning........Do you Remember the tower had a very large thick steel cable running from the top right into the ground ,serving as a lightning rod,...and immediate ground. HF&RV
Hi Jean-Marie, I loved those Lowney's Cherry Blossoms. Other great treats were Moirs Licorice Baby Allsorts, Neilson's Jersey Milk bars. As kids we hated Toronto and the Neilson bars were made in Toronto. I would try and buy Lowney's chocolate bars which were made in Sherbrooke, Quebec or Moirs Baby Allsorts which were from Halifax, Nova Scotia I think. I loved Hershey bars when we went to the United States. I was in my teenage years when Hershey chocolate bars came to Canada. Yesterday I had a problem with my Cingular cell phone. The Cingular operator was really nice. I asked what part of the country was she in. I was surprised when she told me it was Halifax. We got in to a great conversation about the high tides in The Bay of Fundy. There's nothing like dealing with your own Countrymen. Happy Canada Day to all-Walter
Les, You lived in paradise having that rink by you. I can hear your Father yelling for you to come home. I remember we'd be having a great hockey game going & suddenly a parent, brother or sister would show up and someone would have to go home. Then we'd have to re-align the teams. Often one team would then have an extra player. Bad news was when the owner of the puck or tennis ball was called home and wouldn't leave the puck with us. "You guys lost the puck last time. I'm taking it home !" Our rink never frooze evenly. We always had those big bumps where the level of the ice suddenly went up about a half inch higher. Remember how hard it was to get the Maurice Richard bubble gum card. Were those Topps cards? I forget. We really, really hated Gordie Howe and the Detroit Red Wings. I have a memeory of people in the Forum booing every time Gordie Howe got the puck. Today at age 62 I love Gordie Howe. What a great Canadian!
Les, I saw the building of this tower from my schoolyard in the early 50’s. We were told that the men working on that tower were all Indians from Caughnawaga (now Kahnawake) and that there were no « white men » capable to work at this altitude. I never got close enough to the tower to see the lightning rod. I don’t know when the tower was dismantled but I think it was before 1969 (not sure). JM
Hi JM, Are you sure the red building in the lane picture is CKVL? It's only one storey and the front view shows three????!!!! Art
Hi VerdunReader9 (Art) ! I’m 100+% sure that the red building in the lane picture is the rear Northeast section of CKVL (now CKOI) (Re: VY message No 732). Many additions were made to the original building of CKVL. JM
Hello ! Easy ... the corner and ... the make of the bus ? JM
Here's a tougher one JM
JM; 4th and Wellington...the bus is a NOVA.....made in Ste Eustache just a few minutes drive from where I live in Deux Montagnes......in my opinion these are the worse buses that the MTC has purchased since the Canadair models of the 1960's. But once again, just my opinion. Ralph.
The old CKVL building at 211 Gordon Avenue is now occupied by CQOI 96.9fm as well as CFQR 92.5 fm. I went there a few months back to pick up movie tickets that I had won on Q92 (the call letters commonly used by CFQR). Ralph.
Hi Ralph (multipurposeutensil) ! Obviously good location: Wellington & 4th Ave. Concerning the evaluation of the NOVA bus, I have heard some complaints about their comfort in comparison to their predecessors the CLASSICS. I tried a CLASSICS during my last visit to Montreal and found it pretty acceptable. I never tried the NOVA, I should and compare the new and old models of the make. My preferred make when I was in Montreal: GM. (especially the long model in used on route 65-Côte-des-Neiges in the early 60’s) Notes: Evaluation of an innovative low-floor bus by Transport Canada: [...] Results
The model initially introduced was poorly received. However, after a number of modifications based on feedback from passengers, drivers, and maintenance staff, the bus was found satisfactory. A model with 31 seats offering easy access through the rear door was favoured. A passenger in a wheelchair could embark and disembark in 70 and 57 seconds respectively. Passengers found the bus comfortable and not too noisy or cramped. Drivers said the bus provided excellent visibility, and maintenance crews were impressed with its reliability. [...] http://www.tc.gc.ca/tdc/projects/road/h/8911.htm *** [...] "We are very proud of having achieved the ISO 14001:2004 certification.
This highlights Nova Bus’s commitment to the implementation of best practices in ...
www.masstransitmag.com/news/index.cfm?ID=3817 [...] JM
Ralph, my reference indicates CKOI (not CQOI): http://www.ckoi.com/index2.php JM
A challenge ! (btwn LaSalle Blvd & Wellington) JM
This is really telling you how older I am. I remember when CKVL started. I remember that the manager's name was Corey ?. He said that the initials stood for....C orey, K eeps, V erdun L ively.
JM; You are absolutely correct. I rarely listen to CKOI and did a too quick search before posting my message. Thanks for pointing it out. Ralph.
Hi Jean-Marie, I am not a fan of today's busses. I think bus manufacturers have taken a step backwards in recent years. My favorite of the fifties like yours was the General Motors bus. I loved the #65 line when they had the GM busses. The GM busses came on the line a couple of years after the streetcars had stopped. Canadian Car & Foundry busses were the first busses used on the #65 streetcar to bus conversion. The #65 line had a huge passenger load which the GM busses really served much better than the smaller Canadian Car bus. The #66 line kept the Canadian Car busses on the line for years. When St Catherine Street streetcars were converted to busses, the Canadian Car busses were a newer longer version of the previous Canadian Car & Foundry busses. These busses took a hit not too long after when the MTC put a lot of Mack busses on St Catherine St. I rode the Provincial Transport GM busses a few times. Provincial Transport was a classy operation. For the really long runs, Provincial Transport had those Flexible busses with the round end (no rear window). Provincial Transport busses only had the front doors. There were no rear exit doors. Getting back to the MTC busses, a close second favorite to General Motors was the Mack bus. I loved them. They had a tough grinding powerful sounding engine. What a fantastic bus. Nothing today compares to it-Walter
JM; I took this photo of the Novabus plant in St.Eustache Sunday evening but was unable to upload it. This used to be a very busy place with busses of all paint schemes parked in front and in back, but since a long strike last year, it has been pretty bleak....... ......Ralph.
Hey jm would that be second ave . I lived on second between Wellington and Verdun . Steve
Hi Walter ! Yes, what a great period for the GMC buses in Montreal (GMC Fleet Nos 2300-2324, 2350-2352, 2353-2399, model TDH-5105, 45 seats bought in 1956-57). This model had individual window for each seat, a big advantage. *** Unfortunately, I couldn’t find a pic of a GMC TDH-5105 from MTC. Here’s a photo of a GMC bus, model TDH-5105, 1956 (Ottawa-Carleton Regional Transit Commission restored Ottawa Transit Commission 5931, GMC TDH-5105 at the St. Laurent garage, Ottawa 10-7-01) *** Also a pic of a Mack bus, model C-49-DT, serving in Montreal in the late 50’s (Mack bus, Fleet No 3303 of the series 3300-3349 bought in Aug. 1956) *** As to the CC&F buses serving on route 15-Ste-Catherine after removal of the tramways, the following series of CC&F were bought in 1956-57 (model CD-52, 45 seats): series 3000-3149 and 3200-3249). Photo Montreal CCF Brill 4610, model CD-52, 45 seats (1959). BTW, another preferred make was the Mack bus, series 800 (bought by MTC btwn 1936 and 1942). These buses were in service on route 53-LaSalle-Verdun in the late 40’s and early 50’s. I rode them many times as my mother brought me with her to visit her mother living on Leclair Ave. (a big travel from our home in Côte-des-Neiges to Crawford Park in Verdun). Good memories ! JM
Hi Ralph (multipurposeutensil) ! Thanks for the photo of NOVA Bus Plant. JM
Hello Steve (give me one 1) ! You are close to it. One additionnal hint: the photo was taken looking north (towards Wellington). I admit it is still difficult to identify this avenue. Here is another pic of the same avenue. JM
Hi JM, I thought 2nd Ave too, But now maybe 6st avenue. Danny
The Corey you are refering to was an announcer named Corey Thompson He had a radio program clled the "Kiddies Answer Man" that aired around dinner time. He would answer all kinds of questions that kids would write into him. He became quite famous {or infamous} for one broadcast where he forgot to turn off his mike and was heard to say "That should hold the little b--t--ds" for a little while. Needless to say the sponsor Troy Laundry was not too happy with the uproar that ensued.What a far cry from what they can say over the aurways to-day.
Hello JMH if it's one of the #bered aves,.....then I would guess at 4th av btwn Lasalle & Wellington,.......my brother lived on 6th av,....for a number of years ,....and I hung around there as well.......there should be some trees about half down the street around the 70's or 80's address.....my brother' address was #99-6th ave........but over the years some of the trees may have disappeared,......but I'll stick with my guess of 4th ave.//////// HF&RV
Les Put my vote in for 1st Ave. Art
It can't be 1st Ave., unless they reversed the direction of traffic. The traffic flows toward wellington from LaSalle Blvd on Willibrord.
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Good morning everyone ! Here is another pic of the yet unidentified numbered avenue at its intersection with Wellington: JM
This has to be an even numbered avenue because of the direction
of the cars. Could it be 4th Ave.
Margo
6th ave the four corners are a antique shop, Vincent restarant,
Wellington apt building and judo place.
I will now Agree, with linnie721,.....as well as DannyB's answer form msg # 754 ,...........where he mentioned 6th av as well........Although I mentioned 6th av had trees halfway down on the east side of 6th av.....they were definetly not there in JMH's photo of that block (6th av btwn Lasalle & Wellington) .....So I do agree, with 6th av. Here's an old shot of directly in front of 99-6th Av,....around 1970........there are some tree branches that can be seen to the upper left of the picture.......the trees were in the front yard of a family named Taylor ......( Doug Taylor wetn to VCH as well,.......on the same block lived Steven Galley, Peter Folco,.....Ray Hiatt......blah blah blah ......... on the corner at Wellington ,used toi be the talles apt. bldg in Verdun (at that time) SW corner, An old Gas Station SE corner, a laudermate on the NE corner (with a METRO grocery store beside it,......blah blah blah.............. ........the address of Vincent Restaurant is defined as # 5050 Wellington St, ( it's listed as Vincent Submarine)......and not Vincent Resto-Bar as on the sign on the corner........ Have Fun & Remember Verdun
Hi Les. Aren't you gonna tell us who all those "cool" kids are in the picture?
Your a funny girl MaggieMck,.........but here you go ...Thelma,Gerry,Cheryl & Les,.and I didn't need a belt then,.....but wore one,........and come to think of it ,I don't really need one today,but wear one..........(albeit not for the same reason)............hahahahaha HF&RV
Hi J-M; I don't know if you are interested in Montreal suburban trains or not, but having worked for CPR for 25.5 years and having lived in Deux Montagnes with our infamous trains, I definitely am. I receive e-mails regularly from AMT http://www.amt.qc.ca . In the most recent e-mail I see that CPR has donated a fifty year old coach from the Rigaud line to the railway museum. There are very many interesting links where you can see powerpoint presentations including the "GPS systeme de localization des trains". There are now 3 commuter lines run by CP and 2 or 3 run by CN, under the general company AMT. I find this interesting. If you don't, just delete and forget about it. Here are photos of one of CN's first locos to pull the Deux Montagnes trains, as well as todays Bombardier version made in LaPocatiere. .........Ralph.
J-M: Unfortunately, I have never visited the Canadian Railway Museum in St.Constant/Delson, but according to their website, they are very well stocked with trains, streetcars, and associated equipment. http://www.exporail.org/association There are some nice photos. CPR and CNR also have some quality photos of both old and new equipment at www.cpr.ca and www.cn.ca . In case anyone is interested I worked in the printing department at CP in Windsor Station, Montreal. There were two other Verdun people that worked there when I started but left before I could get to know them.....Ben Steenhorst and Alan Capstick. circa 1973.........mpu
Hi Les et al ! Back after a few days off ... Yes of course, 6th Ave. ! JM
Hi Ralph (mpu) ! Yes, I’m interested in Montreal suburban trains and their history. Thanks for the photos and the links ! JM
Hello ! What about this street btwn Lasalle Blvd & Wellington ? JM
I think that's the same street as in my pic...lol is it Gordon St.?
Sharon, you’re right ! It’s Gordon St. (This time I get your name right: one r) JM
Relatively easy ... JM
Is this one 1st. avenue, looking towards LaSalle Blvd.?
Close, Maggie! I think it's SECOND Avenue, taken from the lane beside the house that's 12 - 2nd Ave. It was my old Uncle Brian's house...lol.
Hello Maggie & Sharon ! Indeed, it’s 2nd Avenue. (re: VY 773) Here’s another pic in the neighborhood: Easy (?) to identify the intersection ... JM
Oh I can't resist! hehe One more then I'll let someone else guess...lol. Is that the intersection of Lasalle Blvd and Willibrord?
Ralph, Thanks for the Montreal Commuter link. Any news on the two new light rail trolley lines planned for Montreal? One on Park Avenue, the other over the Champlain Ice Bridge-Walter
Ok Sharon I'll bite are you speaking of the boys Teen Haven then?
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Hi JM, that white van is parked right in front of where my store was. Active Surplus where I sold fishing bait and equipment in the 80's. Danny
Sharon, Yes, it’s the intersection of Lasalle Blvd and Willibrord (re: VY 776). Here’s a photo of a street (one-way northwards) in Verdun once used by the streetcars (1899-1924) ! JM
Many people will recognize this landscape of Verdun JM
Hey JM That' behind the police station on the boardwalk.Here's one pic. near there . Galt & Lasalle Blvd. Steve
Hi Steve ! You’re right Do you see the single stone pillar remaining (part of the old fence on the boardwalk) in that particular area ... there are many other pillars remaining not far from there ... JM
Do you remember this environment of 1954 ? JM
Walter;
I have not heard anything lately. Anything to ease the bridge traffic would be great. I live in Deux Montagnes and work in Longueui. Check the webcams on this site: http://www.pjcci.ca/English/JCCBI/traffic.HTM When I took the Champlain bridge northbound at about 7pm, the traffic was MUCH heavier than this. Jacques Cartier was even worse. I could take the train, subway, south shore bus...time close to two hours!!!
Ralph.
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JM:
There is a very interesting company on the 2/20 in the old Dominion Engineering building near 1st avenue in Lachine. It is called CAD Railway services. I can not find a web site. When I drive by there I always glance at their collection of locomotives and rolling stock. I believe they strip down scrapped equipment. I noticed in their yard yesterday and today, four of the old CPR commuter coaches like the one that has been give to the Canadian Railway Museum. I will try to get some pictures. The printing company I work for used to copy old manufactures shop manuals for CAD Rail. These were very interesting to look through.
Ralph.
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JM:
I was born in 1954 so I don't remember this exact bus, however, I do notice four interesting facts:
1) The signs NO SPITTING...INTERDIT DE CRACHER I never realized that these signs existed.
2) I have never tried DOW beer, but from what I have heard, it did not have a bon gout. It is a bit ironic for the ad to be right beside the no spitting sign.
3) Some parts of the fllors are wooden.
4) The advertising cards above the seats. I remember when there was a very bad fire in the subway system, and this type of card was outlawed. Just recently has a newer type of fire resistant material returned to busses, but still not to the overhead parts of the Metro. I also remember when the overhead advertisments would have a detachable coupon, or something like this, and I would grab a few, or sometimes a lot.
R
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Hi Steve, Nice picture of Mc Donald's. When did you take it? The person sitting behind the garbage I believe is Doug Brunke (my uncle). How strange is that. Danny
Good morning Ralph (MPU) ! As a matter of fact, photo VY 785 shows the interior of Montreal’s streetcar # 1671. Details of the photo VY 785: Closed electric tramway, built between 1917 and 1922 by J. G. Brill and withdrawn in 1959 by MTC. Inside view of streetcar # 1671, class 1625, in 1954. Here’s another photo of streetcar No 1671: Source: STM website (under history tramway ) http://www.stm.info/ JM
Hey JM Was the Redtop still there? Steve
Hey Dannyb-1 That picture was taking by my brother back in 2002 or 2003 to show me what has taking the place of the old Statium . Steve
J-M: Thanks for the STM historical link What I find interesting in this photo also are the advertisements on the front of the streetcar. One for "saucisses", the other for Dr.Ballard. Was this dog food?, or was there some other Dr.Ballard product? You know I have never been on a streetcar anywhere. Maybe one day I will try the Toronto or San Francisco systems. Ralph.
Hi Steve ! I saw no trace of the red pavilion at the foot of Gordon. I think only one (not sure) pavilion « red top » is surviving to « progress » ! The one at the foot of Woodland. At my last visit in Verdun (June 19, 2005), I took it inadvertently in one pic (just the edge of the red top): Is the pavilion at the foot of Godin still there ? JM
JM, Sure do remember the old street cars back in 1954..sure do make me feel real old!!
Ralph, The ad referring to « saucisses-sausages » is intended to humans. I think it is an ad from La belle fermi챔re. The other ad is dog food (Dr. Ballard‘s). I think dog food will not be as dangerous to humans as certain legal drugs are. BTW, you can visit the CANADIAN RAILWAY MUSEUM at DELSON/ SAINT-CONSTANT There you can have a ride in Montreal’s tramways. http://www.exporail.org/musee/musee_crm.htm JM
Hello ! Is there someone who remembers this corner in Verdun (1940’s) ? ... and the bus line ? ... if you want, you can even describe the bus ... JM
Is this the Curries' that was at the corner of Third & Verdun?
Margo
Hi Jean-Marie, I can't guess the corner but I see one of those Mack busses that I loved. I'm trying to remember if I ever saw the Mack busses on the #78 line. I think the 78 line had Mack's for awhile-so I'll guess it's a #78 bus. Loved the photo of the Cartierville type streetcar #1671. Where do you think the picture was taken? The Glen Car Barn? I can't remember the names of the other car barns. There was the small outside parking only barn in Verdun, Craig Terminal had a small barn in the rear, the one at the end of St Catherine St and the two in the north end. Remember the car barn at the end of St Lawrence Boulevard that had the test run track behind it? The test run track ran a couple of miles as I recall. Thanks for all the great stuff you post-Walter
Hello Margo and Walter ! The street is Verdun Ave at Woodland. I think the photo is of the 50’s (instead of 40’s as indicated in my source) Now, do you want to guess on the bus line (serving Verdun exclusively from 1951 till 1966) ? Walter, you’re right: a Mack bus (series 800). JM
J-M: I remember when I was a kid in Verdun the bus lines having only one number...Verdun #7, Bannantyne #8. I believe they were changed in 1966 with the introduction of the Metro subway system. The Mack bus was also my favorite. I loved how the brakes would squeal for what seemed like forever before the bus would stop. I used to take the #58 Wellington to the corner of Peel and St. Antoine where I worked at CPR. I do recall also that they were also quite cold in the winter. Ralph.
MPU,.....do you Remember that there were only two heaters on the bus.....one was under a single window seat,.on the drivers side, about 2-3 seats past the long seat behind the driver..........then there was a double heater further back,about 2 seats in front of the rear door,........and Remember having to ring the bell,..to signal getting off........but you were better to make eye contact with the driver through the mirror,so he knew you were really wanting to get off at the next stop,....and it wasn't just someone pulling the red cable to ring the bell.........I always loved those paper transfers we got,.....and the driver would punch a hole to verify your completion of part of the trip.................HF&RV
JMH , you seem to be finding mor & more pics re: the MTC (STCUM) ........Could you see if you could find out something about an old MTC bus # 3033..........(I have a reason for that) ........I have found one fairly close it was #3303.........it would have been a 50's & early 60's era bus (possibly a MACK) but I don;t think so....it would service the #58 route often,......and in it's later years was only used it seems during Peak Periods when they needed extra bus's ........Thanks JMH .....(now I'm counting on you JMH,........OK go,.......I'm holding my breath now.............hahahahaha there's probably some that would like to see just how long I can do that.......hahahahaha Have Fun & Remember Verdun Incidentally has the STCUM site expanded it's library ? because I've been through that site many times,.......but perhaps I've missed something.......(sometimes we can't see the forest,..for the trees)
Your right MPU,......I do Remember catching the #7 or #8 just outside the Montreal Forum at Atwater Park (terminus)........Remeber running across the park ,cause timing was everything ,.....it seemed like some of the drivers would see us coming and take off anyway...........How many times did you run down the street pounding on the side of the bus,just to get him to stop for you........hahahaha HF&RV
JM...yup, sure do recall Currie's, at the corner of third and Verdun ave. Ralph Currie is one of the brothers I knew when we were young. Many quarts of beer were delivered to some addresses on 3rd. I was sent to Curries for meat and such for my Mom back then!! cookie
Hello JM!
Is it Willabroad and LaSalle Blvd by chance ?
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Les; I meant to mention the transfer. As a kid I used to try to get as many as possible to pretend I had a wad of "money" in my hand. Another thing that I just remembered when you mentioned the long seats............. It seemed like there was no suspension on these busses, when it hit a bump the shock went right up your back. The engines did sound great though. R>
Yup there are two red-tops left! This is the one at the top of Godin: And this is a closer shot of the one at Woodland: Both pics taken just 2 weeks ago. I'm truly amazed but pleased to see that they are still standing and have been kept in good condition! To be honest I really don't remember the red-top at Gordon..
Hi Ralph, I recall that the #7 & #8 busses changed to double numbers when the streetcars came off St Catherine Street in 1957. That was when the 102, 103, 104, & 105 bus lines started serving Montreal's west end. You transferred at Atwater Terminal to the #15 bus for the ride down St Catherine Street-Walter
Walter; I do remember the Westmount, NDG areas having these 10x numbers, but I am certain that the #7 & #8 did exist in the early sixties. I only moved to Verdun at that time and took these busses till I got married in 1976 and moved to Lasalle. There was definitely a reason for the number change involving the Metro subway system which opened in 1966. R
The caption on this one: "How many times have you travelled to work this way? Inside car 1275 on St. Catherine St. in 1956, all are members of the then MTC "straphangers club". Anyone out there remember the straps?
Some more facts: "Montreal had only two articulated or "duplex" cars, Nos. 2500 and 2501, built by Canadian Car & Foundry in 1928. Here No. 2501 poses outside the St.Denis Barns on March 14, 1953."
Today's low rise Novabus also have a few hanging straps. They do look out of place somehow though.
Good morning Walter ! Thanks for your appreciation. I loved the Mack bus (series 800) of my youth: their design, their leather seats (brown), their armrests, I rode them on route 53-Lasalle-Verdun in the mid 40’s and early 50’s. The bus line in the photo (VY 797): Route 8D-Beurling. You are referring to Line 78-Glen: this line didn’t come in Verdun: only Côte-St-Paul and Ville Emard for its southwest section. The photo of streetcar #1671 was taken at Youville barn. JM
Hi Les and Ralph (mpu) ! I also vaguely remember bus line 7-Bannantyne (used during a small period). They changed it for 8A-Bannantyne. I think to avoid confusion with line 7 Mt-Royal bus route. JM
Sharron the other redtop was where the old statium was. Steve
Oh wow! I remember the stadium of course, but hell if I remember a red-top being there. Any idea what year it was taken down?
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