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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 1419 Newer› Newest»The Virtual Gramophone: Canadian Historical Sound Recordings Canadian Historical Sound Recordings, a growing multimedia website devoted to the early days of Canadian recorded sound. With a database of images and digital audio recordings, as well as biographies of musicians and histories of music and recorded sound in Canada, The Virtual Gramophone provides researchers and enthusiasts with a comprehensive look at the 78-rpm era in Canada. http://www.collectionscanada.ca/gramophone/index-e.html Note: More than 6500 records. *** Easy steps to the database: 1) Introduction 2) Listen 3) Direct access to the complete collection: 3.1) New titles added: (January 2004 - September 2004): (A to Z) 3.2) Complete collection - sorted by title: (A to Z) 3.3) Complete collection - sorted by performer: (A to Z) *** Old gramophone: Labels: JMH
Mus챕e des Ondes Emile Berliner 1050, rue Lacasse,
Montr챕al, QC H4C 2Z3
514-932-9663
(M챕tro Place Saint-Henri). http://www.berliner.montreal.museum/ On July 16th, 1900 Emile Berliner registered the trademark for his company, "Nipper" -the dog listening to a gramophone. The painter, Francis Barraud created this image which was used for more than 70 years. This trademark first appeared in Montreal on the back of record # 402 - "Hello My Baby", by Frank Banta. Berliner produced 2,000 records during his first year of operation in Montreal. In 1901, he sold more than 2 million records. Early records had groves for sound on only one side. The other side featured the now familiar image of "Nipper", the dog. It wasn't until 1908 that records had sound on bothsides.Joseph Saucier (1869 - 1941) had the honour of making the first Montreal recording. He sang the "Marseillaise". Nipper the dog: http://www.broadcasting-history.ca/program/radio/musee_e.html The company saw a huge expansion after World War I, and a factory in St. Henri was enlarged. When construction of this building on St. Antoine was completed in 1921, Berliner Gramophone possessed one of the most modern factories in Montreal. The 50,000 sq. ft. plant made both players and records. In 1924 the company was bought by Victor Talking Machine which merged in 1929 with R.C.A. to become R.C.A. Victor. Emile Berliner died August 3, 1929 after a heart attack. http://www.berliner.montreal.museum/enaccueilfr.htm *** Emile Berliner: *** Victrola Berliner Gramophone Co: *** Gramophone (phonograph) Needles: *** Mus챕e des Ondes Emile Berliner: JMH
Thanks, that was an interesting bit of history. All in our own backyard!
What’s on that picture ?
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Onward Gospel Church Galt ave between Wellington & Lasalle. Went to a summer
day camp there about 40 years ago, and made a table centerpiece of corks
from softdrink bottle caps all stapled together with felt glued on the
underneath. This Church is still there, see it whenever I am in Verdun to
see my Dad. When I was a kid we went to Emmanuel Baptist Church on Woodland
between Verdun and Wellington. It is still there but has changed occupants.
It merged at one time with another Church and now is the Verdun Lasalle
Baptist Church occupying an old Dominion store on Wellington somewhere
between 1st and 6th avenues. Ralph aka M.P.U.
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?? United Church,,parents were married there I was christened there also??
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Hi beeaired, By United Church, do you mean Chalmer’s United Church ?
NSEW, The North-South axis of Montreal is the Boulevard St-Laurent (St. Lawrence Blvd). This NS axis is slightly different from the geographical NS as can be seen on the map. In fact, geographically, the NS axis of Montreal corresponds approximately to the NW-SE. So Wellington St runs East to West and de l’Eglise (Church) North to South. All comments are welcome ! JMH
Thanks JMH ....I think that is what we've all been suggesting ,since growing up in LaBelle Province......... and so we still Agree that the South Shore is still the South Shore............and the mighty Fleuve St Laurent still ends up in the East........whooooooh I was worried for a minute there I thought I may have moved to Inuvit..........hahahahahahaha ( although I do like the weather here,no matter where I am)............Have Fun & Remember Verdun
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Yes..gawd..knew is was not Verdun unted church..thanxxx.
Some historical notes on Chalmers United Church Source: Le Messager de Verdun Edition du centenaire 15 d챕cembre 1976. Verdun Messenger Centennial Issue 15 December 1976 JMH
Hi JMH, would like to say thanks also for all the information, makes Verdun a real Home for us , Jimmy
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The story , ( as I once heard it) goes as follows.......the car that would run on almost anything was claimed to be not practical, so they scrapped the program.......oddly enough ...the 'Rockefeller' family ( who owned Standard Oil,the world's largest at the time) bought controlling interest in Chrysler.....and then the decsision was made to stop the program.....(wouldn't want to have a car that could 'run on almost anything'......would you) when you Sell Oil ...............hahahahaha and so the link between car company's & oil company's had begun........and so did gouging.......hahahaha
JMH I just noticed your posted picture of a theatre.......that is the Savoy.....I posted the very same picture a few times it may still be in one of the Photo Albums under ,the pictures link.......I see this post was on the 23rd ....I must of missed it or I was working on the moving of my "office'....... better late than never I suppose......except when waitng for a Heart Transplant............hahahahahah
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Good Picture of the old place ......Many a dance in the basement of that Church........
I believe this is a new roof, St. Willibrord has been raising money for structural repairs to the building as well as for a new roof, apparently promised Provincial grants did not come through. The green color was from the copper rusting (oxidizing) the red color is probably the new type of cladding. Gordo
Is there somebody who knows where those greenhouses were in Verdun ?
Hey JMHachey would it be at the Old Verdun Protesent Hospital. Steve (give)
Hi Steve (give), S. S. Bain, a florist, the 4th mayor of Verdun (1893-1896). He built the house occupied today by Urgel Bourgie Funeral Home on Wellington (North side), corner Egan. He owned greenhouses and a flower garden in his backyard. Today: Urgel Bourgie Lt챕e 5551 Rue Wellington
Verdun, Quebec
Canada H4H 1N6
*** Photo: S. S. Bain, Mayor of Verdun (1893-96) Source: DÉZIEL, Julien, Histoire de Verdun 1665, 1876-1976, Verdun, Edition du Comit챕 du Centenaire, 239 pp (1976), p. 198. (An English version of this book is available). JMH
Hey jmHachey a little before my time lol . I lived betwee Egan and Woodland on Wellington .The smoke stack in the picture reminded me of the Hospital
JMHachey, Chalmers was a great Church to belong to. I remember the tyro group and playing floor hockey on Friday night. The article you posted was very informative and brought back many memories,,,,thank you, Mike
Who remember that box of Chinese starch ? Qui se souvient de cette boîte d’empois chinois ? 谁记住那箱中国淀粉 ? JMH
Correction: Who remembers that box of Chinese starch ? Qui se souvient de cette boîte d’empois chinois ? 谁记住那箱中国淀粉 ?
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Do they still have Javel Water in Montreal or has Clorex taken over all the business? There used to be also Troy Laundry & Toilet Laundry. A lot of jokes were made about Toilet Laundry. It was amazing that they stayed with that name.
Chinese starch!!!! Boy does that go back to my teenage years, before the
days of Spray Starch and steam irons.After the clothes dried on the line, I
had to dampen the shirts and blouses, roll them up,let them sit for a while,
then they could be ironed and you had to be careful not to scortch them
because the controls on the iron in those days did not have as many
settings. How many folks out there remember having to polish the brass
letter slot, doorbell and handels with Brasso even in the winter. It was one
of my Saturday morning chores all year round. If your brass was not shiney ,
then you were a poor housekeeper.
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An interesting collection of Canadian stamps to visit: http://www.collectionscanada.ca/02/020117/020117030112_e.html
Who remember that place ?
Hi Fresco, La Parisienne Bleach has been a household name for over 106 years! ... and still exists. http://www.laparisienne.ca/vw/ac/c010.htm JMH
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JMH that's a great photo......what year is that taken.......I don't Remember Verdun Stadium having bleachers on three sides
The car in the very bottom right hand side ,looks like it would be from the early fifties......and those bleachers look very solid, so I really do not think this is Verdun Stadium,......as we had Wooden Bleachers for most of my life at the Stadium until in the mid 60's they built a big concrete stand to replace the old wooden one.... but I still don't know what park this is ......I also don't see the river on the right ....or the outline of the Aud........
Hi Bob, (bubbacut) You’re right ! It’s the Verdun Stadium. JMH
Well you got me on that one .....but Wjhat year is the photo from JMH, and which site did you finf that great old picture........the park is obviously on the proper side,but other than those crushed stone pathways.( they look familiar) ......the rest I don't Remember ........I still don't recall bleachers on three sidea.....
Hi Les, I don’t know the year of the photo. It was reported in the Verdun Messenger, Centennial Issue (1976), p. 68. In the backgound, you can see the roof of the Auditorium JMH
Thanks JMH ...........I learn something today ,,,,,,now I can go back to being an imbecile..........hahahahahaha
Yes ,I see it now , I thought it was a third bleacher at the far end, but I see now it's the whole side of the Auditorium and a dark colored roof..... I saw it as a shadow across the top of some bleacher seats..........Amazing what jumping to conclusions can do.......good thing I wasn't on the OJ jury......or it may have been different outcome ............hahahahaha
JMH Here's a site you may be able to use in your searches .... http://www.civilization.ca/indexe.asp there are many parts to it ,and you appear to have a quest for knowledge, then you may find it interesting ,(if not useful) Enjoy the site.......Have Fun & Remember Verdun
Some historical notes ... Verdun Recreation Services Messager de Verdun, Édition du centenaire (1976), p. 68. Verdun Messenger, Centennial Issue (1976), p. 68. JMH
Now that is Great Information..........Thank You JMH
Many thanks JMH for the Javel Water info & web site.
I have many duplicates of King George and early Queen Elizabeth and other
'50's Canadian stamps if anyone is interested in making a swap for more
current Canadian stamps
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Hey jmhachey Sorry for the late responce to the Verun Stadium still having trouble with my msn . Could that pic. be of the stadium after The Beaver Construction Company rebuilt the stadium for their American football team.The part at the West end was right behind the Police Station . Steve (give)
Hi Steve (give) The Verdun Stadium was built right behind Verdun Model School (now McDonald’s Restaurant). Now this site is occupied by a big housing project.
Is there somebody who can identify the church with two green steeples we see from Wellington St. in Verdun ? (ref to my post No 261).
Who remember this church in Verdun ?
Is that the First Prespretarin Chuch on Fifth Ave?
Margo
Hi Margo, Here’s a photo of the First Presbyterian Church (on Fifth Ave) built in 1926. JMH
That looks like the Olivet Baptist Church between Woodland and Egan on Bannantyne. I used to walk up there from Fifth Ave many a chilly Sunday Morning (and Thursday night).....
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Hi BFantie, Here’s a photo taken in 1960 of Olivet Baptist Church in Verdun (Where ?) JMH
Hi BFantie, You may be interested in these historical notes ... Source: Messager de Verdun, Édition du centenaire (1976), p. 78. Verdun Messenger, Centennial Issue (1976), p. 78. JMH
Good Morning! Would be St.Clements Church, would it not.
From Tiny
Tina
P.S. New Grandma on the site, healthy baby boy. Michael Ian Gerald Hughes,
March 10th 2005.
Congrats GRANNY ..............
Is that the Baptist Church at Woodland and
Bannantyne??
Congratulations Tiny Tina !
Hi Tiny Tina, Welcome and congratulations for your grandmotherhood ! Here is a photo of St. Clement's Anglican Church 4322, rue Wellington Verdun (corner Gordon) My posts (Verdun Yesteryears Nos 265 & 270) represent Olivet Baptist Church 5500 Bannantyne (between Woodland and Egan) JMH
Hello WayneFeb2940 You’re right. My posts (Verdun Yesteryears Nos 265 & 270) represent Olivet Baptist Church 5500 Bannantyne (between Woodland and Egan) JMH
Hey jmhachey I know where the statium was,what I'm saying that the West end was near the back of the Police Station .
Hi Steve (give) Thanks for your pics JMH
Neat picture of First Pres. JM. I went to that
church before they built the addition (the rightside door). Gus McFarlane was a
Sunday School teacher one year. The greatest thing about the addition was that
we got a gym where the old church had been. The choir said we
cold play basketball if we didn't bounce the ball (too much noise during their
rehersal)
Yes it was Olivet Baptist Church. That's were our family went when I was a
kid.
Hello, Is there somebody who remembers that very popular place on Lasalle Blvd in Ville Lasalle close to the limits of Verdun ? Sorry, I have no better picture. JMH
Hello JMH , it's hard to tell from this photo,but is it the old Clubhouse at the Lasalle Golf Course,which I believe was also once ....Molson family summer cottage.......I think it finally was torn down around early 70's ...........?? Have Fun & Remember Verdun
Hi Les, You’re perfectly right ! ... And don’t forget that the banquet of the Verdun Chamber of Commerce was held there at 7 p.m. after their golf tournament on Thursday, August 18, 1932. ... LOL I don’t know about the Molson family. I also think that the golf was torn down around early 70's. I played sometimes in the mid 60s. BTW, would you have a more recent photo of that place (the Rapids View Golf and Country Club). Best regards, JMH
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Hey Les you one smart Cookie, yeah its the clubhouse alright Jimmy
Hi JMH I will have to try & find one , but I will post it if I can find one....... I never knew it's name was Rapid View....... but I know we used that course often ...for activities other than Golf........hahahahahaah Not to mention later after it was torn down,they connected Central , right through from the Bronx side to the 35 th ave side.......and it was an exact quarter mile from one end to the other (but the stop sign in the middle was to be overlooked........always done with spotters,and late at night /early morning........and I believe it was a Lasalle cop named Beauchemin ( great name,don't you think) .....that really really wanted to nail myself & my BigBlock Beaumont & my buddy with his New Firebird ( recently upgraded at St Isidore Speed Shop.....by Claude Primeau ,who owned the gargage.........We were never caught but often followed night after night ........while they tried to catch us in the act........the cop I mentioned ( I may be wrong on the name ,used to Race his car at NapierreVille....he had a Black 68-69 Beaumont on a trailer towed by a Black either Chevelle/Beaumont same year.....He was cool , and never caught us......but he did Know who he was looking for............hahahahahahah Have Fun & Remember Verdun
Hi Les, More information on the former LaSalle Golf Club House of the Rapids View Golf and Country Club (1893-1981). This site was originally developed by the Ogilvie family. It was known as the Ogilvie Manor. ALEPIN, Joseph Bechir: bought the manor property and transformed it into a golf course. An Avenue in LaSalle bears his name. An arsonist destroyed the club house in 1982. More information available (books) on Ville de LaSalle website: http://www2.csmb.qc.ca/shcavelier/Toponym/r003.htm BTW, the first car I bought in Chicoutimi was a Firebird 1969 (It was the last manifestation of my teenager’s crisis)... LOL (The last car I bought in Verdun (from Woodland Automobile) was a used 1966 Plymouth Valiant (red color) with a V-8 engine, a good car to travel from Verdun to Chicoutimi, no need to upgrade the engine).(But I should have upgraded my Firebird). You talked about Claude Primeau ,who owned the garage St Isidore Speed Shop (I think his father Nestor worked at Lalonde Automobile when I worked there as an office clerck in 1959-60. He often talked about this garage.) JMH
Thanks for that update JMH I must have heard that it was Ogilvie family somewhere along the line,......and Remembered it as Molson Family (unless Molson at some point bought it,).........However I will check out that web site you posted ......Thanks Again.........Have Fun & Remember Verdun
Les, the website for la Soci챕t챕 historique Cavelier-de-LaSalle: http://www2.csmb.qc.ca/shcavelier/IndexF.htm (not the one previously given)
Who remember the loop that the streetcars made on Wellington-Rielle-Lasalle Blvd-Gordon back on Wellington eastward ?
Did the Wellington streetcar line ever have an extension line to LaSalle? Remember the Lachine streetcar line had the Dixie line extension to 59th Ave Lachine. A double ended two trolley pole streetcar (one at each end of the streetcar) like the streetcars that ran on Davidson Ave & Remembrance Road. There was an extension line from The Elmhurst loop on Sherbrooke Street to Montreal West. You had to pay an extra 3 cent suburban ticket.
YESSS! The Notre Dame #25 used to turn onto Rielle from Wellington, then back up back onto Wellington. There was an ice cream parlour on the corner (King George/Prince George) something regal anyhow! More than once the streetcar "jumped" the tracks and crashed into the restaurant. I think the owners made more money from these crashes than they did restauranting! The Wellington #58 ran to Woodland then would do a circle around the small park and head back east. Hey! And what about the Cartierville #17 that went on "0pen" track from Snowden to Cartierville (Belmont Park). The conductor would put his control to its fastest position and away we would go. With all the windows open on a hot summer night it was a fantastic ride. In some ways this was the best ride anywhere, especially when it went up and over the railway tracks in Ville St. Laurent. It would sort of crawl up one side, but would go like hell down the other! Plus the "danger" factor was that this trestle was made of wood timbers and would vibrate like mad! Art
Art, You really described the Cartierville # 17 perfectly. Sometimes I liked the 17 ride better than Belmont Park. I recall Snowden Junction but not as well as I'd like to. I was 7 years old when Garland Terminal opened in 1949. The ride to my cousin's house on the Lachine 91 on open track was also a great ride. Do you know if the Wellington 58 line ever had an extension line from the Woodland loop to Ville LaSalle? The extension lines were the first to go, Lachine Dixie car extension to 59th Ave & the Montreal West extension from the Elmhurst loop. Both those lines had single track with a passing track midway.
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Hi Fresco, Questions, answers, links: Did the Wellington streetcar line ever have an extension line to LaSalle? No But streetcar line 53-Rapids Lachine indeed went west up to 2nd Ave in LaSalle. You can have more info on Montreal public transportation in Verdun by looking at my post No 35 on Verdun Yesteryears (21/12/2004) Other links of interest: 1) PHARAND, Jacques, Montréal… une histoire qui transporte! Le service à Verdun, Journal Info STM M챕tro, (9 septembre 2003). http://www.stcum.qc.ca/info/infostm/2003/030909.pdf 2) Biblioth챔que nationale du Qu챕bec (BNQ), site web: http://www.bnquebec.ca/ Maps of Streetcars lines for 1923, 1929 et 1941: a) 1923: http://www2.biblinat.gouv.qc.ca/cargeo/htm/d158.htm b) 1929: http://www2.biblinat.gouv.qc.ca/cargeo/htm/d161.htm c) 1941: http://www2.biblinat.gouv.qc.ca/cargeo/htm/d168.htm 3) PHARAND, Jacques et al. Network Modifications au r챕seau 1886-1966, CD-ROM, Montr챕al, (2000). http://www.publicationweb.com/jacques-pharand-ang/ Hoping this will be of some help, JMH
Hi Les, Your series of great tram pics continues ... thanks I particularly appreciate the post in front of tram Lachine 91: Trams are on time (But this tram was derailed) They should post Trams are environmentally friendly BTW, you certainly have color pictures of the Oldsmobile of your parents shown here ... was the Mains Pastry on the north side of Wellington ? JMH
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Hi JMH Mains was on the opposite side to the Savoy......I guess we'd call it North.......I have some older shotsd of the stor directly across from Mains, & right beside the Savoy....befire it's storefront changed to a U shape , with a galss display in the middle something like the old Gagnon's type thing........ the olds was blue.....
Hey jmhichey That's a nice shot of First Ave. Do you remember the resturant that was on the West side of First just between Verdun and the lanneway,there was only enough room for app. four people to sit at the counter,no booths. Steve (give)
Hey jmhichey This one http://www.stcum.qc.ca/info/infostm/2003/030909.pdf would be nice if it came in English . Steve (give)
Hey jmhachey Sorry for those others where i spelt your name wrong.I don't remember the #53 Streetcar,but do remember the #53-#52 Buses. When I lived at 5515Wellington their stop was in front.Used to take the #53 to go to the Nad. Do you remember the park accross the street from White's Resturant that went from Woodland to Argyle between Welligton and Lasalle .On the Wellington side was the #53-#52 Bus stops,on the Lasalle side the #58-#60 Bus stops and on the Woodland side was the #59 Bus stop. Steve (give)
Hi, Steve (give) No, I don’t remember the restaurant that was on the West side of First Ave. between Verdun and the lane. Most of my childhood was spent on Ethel St. btwn Hickson & Regina; of course also (mainly) on Victor Lane in the Verdun Palace area. BTW, do you remember the name of that restaurant ? JMH
Hi, Steve (give) You have a good memory of the bus stops and the park delimited by Wellington-Woodland-Lasalle Blvd-Argyle and used as a loop. I remember this area very well too. Do you remember the make of the busses that were running on line 58-Wellington and 53-Lasalle-Verdun in the mid 50’s ? JMH
Hey jmhachey All I get when I go to that English one is You are not authorized to view this page You might not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials you supplied. If you believe you should be able to view this directory or page, please try to contact the Web site by using any e-mail address or phone number that may be listed on the www.stcum.qc.ca home page. You can click Search to look for information on the Internet.
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jmhachey some were GMs I'm not too sure. Steve
Hi Steve (give) I didn’t succeed in translating directly in English the complete French web page of the STM: http://www.stcum.qc.ca/info/infostm/2003/030909.pdf I did copy and paste the original French text and translated it in English using Alta Vista free online translator (fast translation, but there are errors to correct in the automatic translation). JMH
Hi Steve (give) After the tramways, the busses were mainly Canadian Car/Brill CCF (Canadian Car & Foundry) , some GM and some Mack, series 800 (on line 53-Lasalle-Verdun). JMH
Hey jmhachey The CCF Okay , Those Mack's with the Red Bulldog on the front. Steve
Hi Steve (give) I think that the bulldog was silver colored with the surrounding silver ellipse red inside. JMH
Hi JMHachey, I'll take a guess at your question. First I'll say that streetcars ran on the Wellington 58 line until 1957. The early fifties had the green two man operation streetcars. Later the yellow Springfield one man operation streetcars were used until the end of trolley car service on Wellington. The busses I remember on the 53 & 58 lines were Canadian Car & Foundry busses. I recall GM & Mack busses on St.Denis & St. Lawrence Streets. There were some Fageol busses in NDG that ran to Claremont Avenue for the transfer to the #14 streetcar. The north end of town had those fantastic trolley busses. The Montreal Star had a story in the late fifties that trolley busses would replace the Lachine streetcars but that did not happen.
Hi Fresco, Thanks for all the infos on the trams and busses. Good memories of Fageol bus and trolleybus. I had the pleasure to travel on each of these vehicules: *** The 1946 Fageol Twin Coach. There has been 35 of these in the Streets of Montreal. I remember having taken this make of bus on line 38-Barclay St. corner of C척te-des-Neiges Rd in the early 50s. *** This picture taken in 1943 shows one of the new English made trolleybus (also known as Electrobus) in service on Beaubien Street. *** 1947 Brill 4027 on the Amherst line. This series of Montr챕al trolleys (40 vehicles) had windshield wipers suspended from above the windows. Photo by Peter Cox. 24 MY 1966. And above all, tramways and trolleybusses are environmentally friendly ! Have a nice day, JMH
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Hey jmhachey I figured That you had a good picture of First Ave. that you would know . Steve
2 questions: 1) Is there somebody who can give us the names of the 3 shortest streets in Verdun ? 2) Which street has the least number of addresses ?
Egan or Edna??
jmhachey, You come up with the most obscure information. Sort of keeps us coming back for more.....thanks.
would one of those streets be Dunver Crescent???
maybe Monteith???
Brassard, Gibbons and Penniston. Are there smaller streets in Verdun ? (excluding Nun's Island)
How about Troy Avenue. Troy laundry was/is located there. Winston Allison
How about River St. the shortest and May Ave. least addresses?
Hi beeaired, Mom1945-Linda, FrenchMac, winnie3ave, VerdunReader9. Ref.: the smallest street in Verdun. Using canada411 and mapquest: http://www.canada411.com/ http://www.mapquest.com/maps/main.adp?formtype=address here are my findings: Gibbons: Addresses listed on canada411: 550-562 (even Nos only) Estimated lenght using mapquest map: 250 ft Brassard: Addresses listed on canada411: none Estimated lenght using mapquest map: 100 ft Penniston: Addresses listed on canada411: none Estimated lenght using mapquest map: 600 ft N.B. there is also a Penniston Av. in LaSalle. May: Addresses listed on canada411: 254-280 (even Nos only, next to Autoroute 15) Estimated lenght using mapquest map: 480 ft N.B. River St. no longer exists. Conclusion: Brassard St. would be the shortest street in Verdun with no address. Your comments are most welcome ! JMH
JMH. Good man. It is amazing how small some of those streets are. Thanks. Winston Allison.
Personally, I think "Gibbons Ave." is deserving of a more prestigious recognition, possibly renaming Bannantyne into "Gibbons Blvd." Gord Gibbons
Hi Gord, Recent news about Gibbons Street: VERDUN BOROUGH COUNCIL – FEBRUARY 1ST, 2005 A regular meeting of the Verdun Borough Council was held on Tuesday, February 1st, 2005, at 7:00 p.m., in Room 205 of the Verdun Borough Hall. ... « IT WAS PROPOSED by Councillor Ginette Marotte SECONDED by Councillor Laurent Dugas AND UNANIMOUSLY RESOLVED TO approve the purchase agreement by Mr. RÉMI VIGNEAULT to acquire from the CITY OF MONTREAL vacant land measuring approximately 874.1 square metres and located near Gibbons Street in the Verdun Borough, City of Montreal, fully described and known as lot 2 025 301 of the registry office of the Bureau de la publicité des droits de la circonscription de Montréal for an amount of $2,000.00, the whole provided that the City Council or all relevant authorities agree to this deed of sale. ALSO RESOLVED THAT Mr. Beno챤t Malette, Urban Planning Division Head, be mandated to sign the purchase agreement. GDD 1042174072 » ... More at: http://verdun.ville.montreal.qc.ca/a24-en/pdf/Proces_verbal_du_1er_fevrier_2005.pdf Have a nice day, JMH
Do you remember this bldg ? Photo by Andr챕 Phaneuf, March 2005.
Salvation Army between LaSalle Blvd and Wellington on Willibroard. I
believe they use to hold Brownies etc. in the basement there.
Tiny Tina.
JMHACHEY. I sure do. It is The Salvation Army on Willibrod, between Wellington and Lasalle Blvd. My mother, my brother Hartland (Bumpy) went there for many years. Also went for many years to the one in The Point. Winston Allison
They used to keep their brownies in the basement . Was that legal ? Steve New at Napperville
The cost of that speed chair is??..hahaha..have a electric jiffy, manual wheelchair..sure you be able to keep up and above the Joneses,, zzzzzzoooooooooooommmmmmmmmmm
Is that Rielle or Willibrord or which street in Verdun ? and the big bldg Chateau Lasalle ???
Last time I looked...(it has been a while).... there were flats and a manse at the LaSalle Blvd end of Willibrord and the fire station at the end of Rielle on LaSalle. This picture couldn't be from either of those. Looks more like first avenue.
Well ......Galt went towards the river ,Gordon came down,Rielle went up, Willibrord came down ,.......and of course 1st av went up........so based on my recollection of those avenues,....I say MaggieMck,....is right it would most likely be 1st av,.....or at the very least it is not Rielle......IF the FireStation is still there on Lasalle blvd.....
where is Gibbons Street in Verdun, never heard of it and I lived in Verdun
from 1940 until the early 1960's. My parents lived there until 16 years ago.
Margo
Hi Margo, Here is a map locating Gibbons Street: You can also observe it on a map of Verdun: http://verdun.ville.montreal.qc.ca/a24-en/pdf/carte.pdf Have a nice day ! JMH
Hi Les, I think that you’re right: this is First Ave. The Fire Station is still at the same address: 4398 LaSalle Blvd. Verdun. (Foot of Rielle) Have a nice day ! JMH
This is the actual logo of POM: I think that the old logo was different. Do you remember the old logo (particularly on the old POM Bakeries trucks) ? JMH
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JMH, The POM logo is great ! Do you remember what POM stood for? Pride Of Montreal.
Hi Fresco, Yes, I remember Pride Of Montreal (also Pain Orgueil de Montr챕al) BTW, do you have a photo of the old trucks and the old wagons carried by horses of POM Bakeries ? JMH
JMH, I cannot identify the church but I'm quite certain that when we were kids visiting the lookout on Westmount Mountain it was the church that you could see in Verdun who's steeples looked like two rocket ships. We used to laugh about that. Going to the Westmount Lookout was a nasty bike ride up the mountain but it was sure fun coming down. A trip to Mt Royal Lookout was done by streetcar. Cote Des Neiges 65 streetcar to Remembrance Road streetcar. Go to the lookout then take the streetcar down on the other side of Mt Royal and end up on Park Avenue. I used to love the fact that both The Mt Royal & Westmount Lookouts had metal arrows pointing at mountains in The Eastern Townships, Vermont and New York. The names of the mountains was printed on the arrows. The view on a clear day was amazing.
Fresco, the church in the photo is not in Verdun. BTW, do you remember all the transfers from your home in Verdun to Remembrance Road streetcar ?
Recent news about Crawford Bridge. Do you have any memories about that bridge ? Source: Le Messager de Verdun, Verdun Messenger. March 20, 2005.
My husband told me he fished under the bridge, until the cops chassed him away, but would go back the next day. He rode his bike over the bridge to get to Angrignon Park where in early spring he use to tap maple trees for the syrup.
Which bridge was the cow bridge? Years ago the cows from the Douglas were taken across on the brige to
graze on the other side.
Dianne
Where on Wellington has all those trees?
Steve
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Hi Dianne, The following bridges link Verdun to Montreal over the Aqueduct: At the foot of: de l’Église (Church), Galt, btwn 4th & 5th Av., Woodland, Stephens, « Cow Bridge » behind the Douglas and Crawford Bridge. My first « scientific visit » with our professor of biology to Parc Angrignon was made in 1957 while I was student at l’École secondaire Richard. I made a lot of visits to Parc Angrignon with my bike using Crawford Bridge. JMH
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Yes JMH that makes more sense with the larger picture, since the car in the picture is turning off (I would say Rielle) as Willibrord would be heading towards Verdun Av....so that 's one hell of a camera ,I wonder if the image was originally captured from a TV Camera...then printed in the paper.......? it just shows you can't always believe what you (think) you see.......hahahha Have Fun & Remember Vedun
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Hi Les, Me thinks that it was the corner of Galt and Wellington and then you see the lights at Church. Great shot!! Mike
Hi Mike ....I would have thought that as well, However if you look past the reporters head you will see storefronts.....there were/are no storefronts ( that I'm awareof) immediately beside the big church ( there is a residence for the priests.....so I think you have to backup a little further,and it can't ge Gordon , as it travels towards Verdun Av....so my guess is back to Rielle ,.....you can , as you say make out the traffic lights at Church,.....then again in the distance at Hickson......this is a large lens,to capture all that.....you can also see in front of the reporters mouth ,a partial view of a directional sign ,and then another further down at (my guess there is Galt) so that again would make the picture being taken from roughly the corner of Rielle.........What you think........
Hey Les, Boy you got good eyes for an old geezer!!!! Just kiddin with the geezer stuff. Your right,,,,,,the only thing I didn,t think of was counting car lengths,,,,lol. Mike
Les, By the way,,,thanks alot for all the great stuff you post,,,,sorta keeps us young,,, Mike
Thanks Mike I keep telling myself that too......keeps me young.......hahahah I just can't figure out how come my kids seem to be getting old so fast.........hahaha Have Fun & Remember Verdun
Here is another P.O.M. label, not from Montreal though............ .........perhaps our more 'experienced' members have sampled this product.....
JMH, I used to love crossing Black's Bridge on the Montreal & Southern Counties streetcar. The ride to St Lambert was really fun. Leaving the Southern Counties terminal the streetcar ran along the canal, sharp left turn over Black's Bridge, sharp right turn then past Ogilvy's grain elevator up and on to the Victoria Bridge. Then a two mile ride over the Victoria Bridge. On one side of the streetcar you saw the CNR railroad tracks & the other side there was a view of the small side walk plus a view of the fast moving current of the St. Lawrence River below. There used to be a street halfway between the Montreal & Southern Counties Montreal Terminal and the Victoria Bridge where the tracks switched off and ran up the street for about 500 yards. I forget the name of the street and why the tracks were there. They were never used. If anyone has an answer to what street that was and why the tracks were there it's gotta be you JMH. Remember the Ogilvy Foods commercial with the jingle that went "Oh, gee it's Ogilvy!"
Fresco.....I used to like to have a beer in Black's Bridge Tavern.......and I roamed all over that neighborhood ..as my oldmans shop was located ,just down from there.....I got to travel all over the harbour in those days........ I played in the streets around there as a kid and then later ,as I got a little older got to checkout all these places....Is the street your thinking about ....Mill St ? .......I'll re-read your description and answer it later.....I'm being vacated from the 'Command Post' here at the computer by my daughter....if you don't hear from me within a weekk....Send out Search & Rescue.........hahahahah or just send out a couple of cases of that product with the POM label on it.......I'll check it out ........hahahahah Have Fun & Remember Verdun ( the product from Michigan...not Montreal.....hahahahah)
Hi Fresco, Some pics of streetcars of the Montreal & Southern Counties Railway (MSCR): Do you remember those places ? ________________________________________________________________ 1) MSCR-McGill Terminal ________________________________________________________________ 2) MSCR-McGill Terminal ________________________________________________________________ 3) MSCR-St.Lambert Terminal ________________________________________________________________ More: Website of the Montreal & Southern Counties Railway: http://www.omnibus42.com/Omnibus/Textes/tram_msc.html JMH
Les, Mill Street sounds like the place. The tracks & trolley wire switched off the main line and went down Mill Street for about 500 yards or so then just dead ended. The tracks did not have the shiney look that the tracks that were in use did. I never saw a streetcar on Mill Street & wonder why they ever put tracks on that street. Remember the Montreal & Southern Counties streetcars ran on a single track line, not one track in each direction like the Montreal Tramways had. The Southern Counties had a short two track stretch just before Victoria Bridge where inbound & outbound trolley cars could pass each other. When Black's Bridge opened for boats during the rush hour it could really mess up the Southern Counties schedule.
JMH, Thanks for the photos. I remember the Southern Counties Terminal so well. The Southern Counties streetcars with the stained glass little windows above the regular windows. Really beautiful streetcars that we didn't appreciate at the time. Some of the cars had a smoking section in the front part of the car. You would go through the door and the rear section had no smoking. The streetcars had an air horn, not bells like the Tramway streetcars. The South Shore would have great transit service today had that streetcar system been improved instead of closed. I remember they talked about running the streetcars into Central Station when the Seaway forced the trolleycars off the bridge during construction of the St Lawrence Seaway. That never came to pass however. We had friends in Acton Vale, Quebec. I can remember drives to Acton Vale and you'd see a three car set of Southern Counties streetcars going like hell on their way to Granby. I never got to ride them to Granby. Just one more of life's treats that passed me by.
Hey Les_F
Trees had a hard time growing on Wellington.
Don't forget most towns had a Wellinton Stree .
Steve
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Hey jmhachey
Reconize the Church at Galt & Wellinton
but all those trees . I'm going to have to
take a drive along Wellington the next
time I'm in Verdun .
Steve
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Hi Steve (Give), For many years now, there has been a serious program of tree plantation in different boroughs of Montreal including Verdun. I will visit Verdun this Summer, Have a nice weekend ! JMH
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A brief history of St. Clement’s Church in Verdun (Page 1 of 2) Do you have any memories about St. Clement’s ? Source: Messager de Verdun, Édition du centenaire (1976), p. 79-80. Verdun Messenger, Centennial Issue (1976), p. 79-80. JMH
A brief history of St. Clement’s Church in Verdun (Page 2 of 2) Do you have any memories about St. Clement’s ? Source: Messager de Verdun, Édition du centenaire (1976), p. 79-80. Verdun Messenger, Centennial Issue (1976), p. 79-80. JMH
Hi Jean-Marie: Thanks for the article on St. Clement's Church. It brought back a lot of memories and, as well, provided me with new information about the history of my parish church. My brother was baptized and confirmed at St. Clement's, and I was confirmed there (although I was baptized at Christ Church Cathedral on St Cathrine St. at University). Both my Mom and Dad's funeral masses were held at St. Clement's. Thanks for the memories. Bill
Hi Fresco, Do you have an idea of the signification of the 2 « white flags » in front of that streetcar of the M&SC ? End of service ? Is that Tiffin St. in St. Lambert ? JMH
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Did you know that there is a park called West Vancouver in Verdun ?
Hi JMH, I'm going to say that the streetcars are in Marieville, Quebec. The St Lambert streetcars ran as single cars and had a turn around track loop in Longeuil, Quebec. In the photo I see a two car trainset and a Y track turn around. Also I notice that the track runs in it's own right-of-way at the side of the road. I recall that in St Lambert the track ran in the center of the road. I do not remember a Y track turn around in Greenfield Park so I will stick with my guess that the photo is in Marieville. Do you remember that the Montreal & Southern Counties streetcars ran for about a year and a half after they were removed from the Victoria Bridge. They terminated at The St Lambert CNR Station where you would transfer to the train. Eventually Chambly County Bus Lines took over the business.
Hi JMH, To me it looks like Marieville, Quebec. Marieville is the longest ride I ever had on The Montreal & Southern Counties. I wish I would have been able to go all the way to Granby, Quebec. Another thing to remember is that on the St Lambert line there was a loop turn for the streetcars to turn around at in Longeuil. The picture here shows a Y track turn around. Also I never saw a train set on the St Lambert line. They always ran as single cars. I'll go for Marieville, hope I'm right.
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Who remember this place in Verdun ?
Hi Fresco, I think you’re right about Marieville. Concerning the « white flags », I saw them on many streetcars of the M&SC. I’m still not sure of their meaning, (Out of service ???, Express ???) JMH
I think that might be the Verdun Lawn Bowling League, jmhachey, situated where Verdun Ave. meets LaSalle Blvd. By the way......to the left of the picture was a KFC. They closed the place and tore it down the last few months. Making way for Townhouses or condo's I guess. Mac
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Hi Mac (FrenchMac) & Bob (bubbacut), You’re right for the Verdun Lawn Bowling (also known as Verdun Bowling Green) Prior to KFC, I think that there was an Esso Service Station (not sure ) JMH
Do you remember that house ? ... and the make of the car ? and the building behind ?
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Hi JMH, The white flag means it's a special or extra. If a group of people chartered a streetcar or extra trains were put in service that were not normally scheduled. This could be for sporting events, holidays-anything that caused them to add additional service. In 1963 I bought tickets for a chartered ride on CNR to Hemmingford, Quebec. It was sponsored by The Canadian Railroad Historical Association in Delson, Quebec. We had a little three car train that flew the white flags. Passenger trains were no longer running on this line in 1963, we got a lot of surprised looks and waves from people along the line. The train ended at the US border where the tracks ended. We were told that the train used to cross the border and go on to Lake Placid & then on to Utica, New York. I think the CNR removed the train tracks to Hemmingford in the eighties. I'm glad I rode it when I could. It's the only chartered train ride I've ever been on. Now that I'm retired I'm going to try and do some more chartered train rides. Ft.Myers, Florida has a tourist train that does some all day charter runs.
Remember what ESSO stood for? Every Sucker Stops Once !
What about SHELL ? Special Hell Entrance Low Liability ?*$@+!!! and BP (Big Profit) or something better ?
Pumped gas at the Esso station on 2-20 in Pte Claire..Esso = E very S aturday S unday Off Or SO = Standard Oil.
The first swimming pool in Verdun at the foot of Church Avenue. Early 1900s
Do you recognize this bldg in Verdun ?
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I believe it's the lawn bowling club, but I don't know the era
Douglas Hospital - JMH Built in 1912, Douglas Hall underwent major renovations in 2000-2001. The new multi-faceted facility houses an amphitheatre and reception hall (each able to accommodate 210 people), and has two 10-seat meeting rooms. Rental inquiries may be directed to: Monique Gouin-Johnson, (514) 761-6131, ext. 2287.
A photo taken in 1910 of the old house ... (compare to a more recent pic on my previous post No 383) Do you know the importance of this house in the foundation of Verdun ? On the right, in the back, one can see l’École supérieure Richard built in 1908 (first phase) at 200 Galt. JMH
The inauguration of the M&SC service btwn Montreal and St. Lambert. A group of directors (superintendants ?) and shareholders of the Montreal and Southern Counties Railway. Photos from La Presse, Nov. 2, 1909. Photo 1: Taken a few moments before the departure from Place d’Youville. Photo 2: Arrival at St. Lambert of the first streetcar of the M&SC, Saturday afternoon. JMH
Once again very interesting j m h merci beaucoup Jimmy
Grand Trunk Regatta (1878) The drawing shows fortifications on Nuns’ Island Source: BNQ
Do you find something special in this photo ?
Congratulations JMH , your msg posts have hit 400...............Thank you very much for yours and everyone else's contributions.......... Have Fun & Remmber Verdun
JMH, Congratulations on 400. You and Les are amazing. Great stuff, it's really appreciated. Fresco aka Walter Ryan
Thanks Les, I appreciate VC memberships. .... here’s an ad for Verdun Stadium on Verdun Ave. corner Sixth Ave. Do you remember that Stadium ? (The ad is dated 1936) You will notice that in those years, there was no discrimination on hair cut: men and women paid the same price ($0.25) at Roach’s Barber Shop on Verdun Ave. Also, there were many ads for beer in those years in the Verdun Messenger. JMH
Thanks Fresco (Walter) ... in the Daily Witness, Oct. 21, 1911: Source: BNQ Have a nice day ! JMH
Some dates: 1916-1918: British Munitions Supply Company (BMSC) in Verdun. 1919: BMSC bought by Dominion Textile 1940-45: Defense Industries Ltd 1945: Transformation of the DIL into 26 small businesses. 1946: DIL changes its name to Verdun Industrial Plan regrouping 39 companies 1984: Coopérative d’habitations La Poudrière (Housing Coop). *** Then (June 1916) *** and now (Jan.2005) JMH
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Jean-Marie, This one is too easy,,,n'est pas? The Pav at the corner of Lasalle and Woodland,,,home of great steamies and fries,,,,and the dances of course,,,and a little "riot" at times!!!! Mike
The Bandstand at Woodland Park. They use to have singsongs etc A guy name McGuiness was EMC as well as Gus McFarlane(?) also Danny Dean (nee Jarmush) did his act there during the 40's early 50's. The Pav was behind in a wooden building with the Boardwalk in front it and the VYC wharf was also there. Gordo
Yup you are right,,,they were all one and the same to me growing up!! Mike
... and what about this house ? ... JMH
Hmmmmm,,,that's a good one!! Mike
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