Friday, February 22, 2008

St. Patrick's Day causing Catholic dilemma

What will the Bishop of Montreal say? (Cardinal Archbishop Jean-Claude
Turcotte.) Boston and New York has decided to have their parade no
matter what on Holy Week. Personally I see a fixable problem. Holy
Week is us Irish Catholic's most sacred time of the year, and let's
face it, a tad more important than St. Paddy's Day. Only my opinion
don't bite my head off.
Bill (Second Avenue)


http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/02/20/catholic.conflict.ap/index.html

10 comments:

biking2006 MSN said...


http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/02/20/catholic.conflict.ap/index.html

cathyart1 MSN said...

AS long as St Pats is anywhere near the 17th,it is always an awesome parade....and Montrealers get out there and have a great time....(I always get a great laugh out of the French Canadians out on the street partying with us of Irish descent....too bad that it can't be like that all of the time)...yet the next day a few of them wil be crabbing about the old signs at the Pubs....go figure...GEEZ!

cathyart1 MSN said...

ps-ok I am Protestant...Gran from ballymena and gramp from belfast...my Gramps hated St pats parades in Montreal cuz he thought that there wasn't much to celebrate....Gran always went with me and Ma to the parades tho-theres been many times where the parade hasn't been held on the 17th so what's the panic....it's just a lovely get-together for everyone and so nice to see the tradition remain in such a big way in Montreal-we even have a parade here in Kingston!

bigfellow6633 MSN said...

Statistacly (sp?) I have seen figures that 80% of french canadiens have an irish ancestor.

biking2006 MSN said...

Many of the orphans of the thousands of Irish immigrants who died of ship fever in the 1800s, were adopted by kind hearted French families. The stone at the foot of the Victoria Bridge memorializes a mass grave of 6,000 victims of this ship born disease. I photographed the stone in 2005. (I parked at Costco and walked over there). I posted the picture on my V.C. album which has gone missing.
I think the problem the church has with the parade is it is usually associated with the heavy consumption of Irish whiskey.
Bill

the lad MSN said...

Hi   I always felt along with alot of us that this is a sure sign SPRING is here... Since we don't have the Expos in spring training anymore.. The parade is always a good time and considering the Huge crowds well behaved...   Lad

keithinbeeton2 MSN said...

Hi Lad,   The way we here in Toronto know that spring is close is when the Toronto Maple Leafs are in last place.   k 

winnie3ave MSN said...

Keith. It must been spring almost 100% of the time. I shouldn't be talking about The Maple Griefs like that. My poor grandson who is 11, claims that as his favorite team. We live in Vancouver, Washington, so don't get to see any live games. We do get some games around the end of the season tho. And of course we can't wait for the playoffs, which we get.   Winston Allison

les__f MSN said...

biking ( Bill)  SecondAve,........  your into books about the Irish, Here's one ,written by a woman from Montreal,....( hse has a couple of books out,..but this one I thought may be of interest to you:
The Shamrock and the Shield
An Oral History of the Irish in Montreal
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Patricia Burns
[History]

Although there have been some Irish living in Montreal since the early 1600s, augmented by Irish soldiers arriving with the conquering British army, it was only in the early 1800s that an Irish presence was truly noticed. By 1824 there were sufficient Irish in Montreal to organize the first St. Patrick's Day Parade, and ten years later the St. Patrick's Society was founded. In 1847 St. Patrick's Basilica, Montreal's first church built for the Irish Catholics opened--a year before thousands of sick Irish escaping the famine in Ireland arrived.

To remember history demonstrates pride in our heritage. Oral history makes our past come alive by putting a human face on bare facts. Patricia Burns grew up in Montreal listening to her grandparents and parents relating tales of men freezing to death on sailing ships and of rum-runners being killed by police. Remembering these stories, she has continued the tradition, and since 1991 she has been recording the memories of men and women from all walks of life, many who grew up in the working class community of Griffintown. src="http://www.google-analytics.com/urchin.js" type=text/javascript> type=text/javascript>
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    ISBN:1-55065-109-9
Price:$21.95
Size:6x9
No. of Pages:204 Illustrated:Yes
Cover:Trade paper
In Print:Yes   ................maybe your local library can borrow it for you( they sometimes will do that,.... ) Unfortunatly all our library's here in Great Victoria,.are locked out / on strike....in anycase it limits my reading resources........the ISBN # is listed above as well,.so you can find it easier I would think...Good Luck if it's of interest:      ..found while looking for Verdun /Montreal stuff etc etc                                                                             HF&RV

biking2006 MSN said...

Thanks for thinking of me Les. I've had a copy for some time now. A good read indeed. A few years ago I began buying up books of Montreal (in print or not). Some of which were posted on V.C. 3 or 4 years ago. Montreal has a very interesting history and the Irish definitely are one part of it.
Bill